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Dec 21, 2020 11:13:17   #
Harry0 Loc: Gardena, Cal
 
mikegreenwald wrote:
Wind affects our bodies, but wind chill is a non-issue for batteries. Remote batteries inside our presumably warm cloths work well, but require a little personal intervention to create the remote battery box, cord, and camera component for most brands.
A small insulated case and hand warmer can be very helpful as well. I have a manufacturer remote set for Nikon, but having switched to Canon years ago, it doesn’t help much now. If the voltages are right, I suppose one could use the “wrong” brand battery case and cord along with a cobbled together camera component, but it’s easier to just carry extra batteries.
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i agree.
The SOP for the last 6 decades that i know about was to keep your batteries inside your coat.

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Dec 21, 2020 11:24:37   #
clickety
 
Country Boy wrote:
3 Curious questions. 1. Would one of the camera skins (form fitting rubber camera covers) help keep the camera internal? 2. If you use a remote battery box, does the wire need to be kept warm or is there power loss due to cold wire carrying power to the camera? 3. Does the battery loss in cell phones reduce at the same rate?


#2 no. Wires and conductors don’t use chemical reactions. In fact it is heat that degrades the efficiency of the transmission of electrical energy.

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Dec 21, 2020 11:29:24   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
bweber wrote:
...Battery life degrades, but you can restore the battery by simply warming it up........


The cold doesn't empty the battery, it just causes the output voltage to fall. The camera then "thinks" that the battery is empty, but warming it up will restore the output voltage.

That also applies to non-rechargeable batteries, so don't throw them away if they get cold and the output voltage falls.

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Dec 21, 2020 11:48:06   #
boberic Loc: Quiet Corner, Connecticut. Ex long Islander
 
Un like other batterys Li batterys have flat discharge curve. Thats why they are used in medical equipment. However when they near EOL (end of life) thje voltage falls off rapidly, Same thing when they are cold.

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Dec 21, 2020 11:48:13   #
wthomson Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
I never travel with less than 2 extra batteries, and I'm generally in warmish weather.

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Dec 21, 2020 13:37:46   #
pdsilen Loc: Roswell, New Mexico
 
RonDavis wrote:
This is probably a well-known phenomenon and a well discussed topic, but it’s interesting to me since I just observed it firsthand. I went on a photo shoot on a very cold day in Chicago…..shooting from a breezy high-rise roof top which made it even colder. I started with a fully charged battery in my Fuji X-T2. As I shot multiple exposures, I notice the battery (charge) indicator declined rapidly and went red, indicating complete exhaustion. (At first, I couldn’t believe what was happening because the decline was so fast). I switched to a (warm) battery from my pocket and put it in my (now) colder camera. After a few minutes and a few exposures, the same thing started to happen. I ended the session with about half the shots I usually get from the batteries….(and my freezing hands). So, my observation and conclusion…battery life declines rapidly, as much as 50% in very cold weather. The exposures appeared mostly normal since I stopped shooting before the battery indicator went red. And yes, these are rather new, Mfg labeled batteries. My new practice for cold weather shooting---carry multiple batteries in warm pockets and expect to change them😊 Any quick thoughts would be appreciated…thanks
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I remember watching the Winter Olympics in South Korea. It was very cold over there and I noticed that all the photographers special cold weather coverings around their cameras. Perhaps you might look into getting something like that.

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Dec 21, 2020 13:55:04   #
tiphareth51 Loc: Somewhere near North Pole, Alaska
 
Where to get one?

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Dec 21, 2020 14:05:01   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
I've read experts who advise keeping spare batteries in a warm place -- like an inside pocket -- when it's cold outside.
rwm283main wrote:
The Fujifilm X-T2 is a battery hog overall, even when the temps are warm compared to a lot of other cameras. I have the X-T2 and have noticed the same decline of battery charge these past few days in Connecticut with temps in the mid 20s. I just ordered a used vertical power booster grip from mpb. The price was right compared to new.
Question: I keep a couple of charged batteries in my camera bag as backups. I'm assuming they will be affected by the cold weather just sitting in the bag. How does this affect the discharging/charging life span of the battery? If the back up batteries in my camera bag weren't used during the day of shooting do I need to put them in the charger to 'top them off?'
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Dec 21, 2020 15:03:06   #
photoman022 Loc: Manchester CT USA
 
When my battery starts to wear down I will replace it and put the battery in my shirt pocket. When the second battery loses charge I will change it out with the first battery. The warmth seems to "recharge" the batteries. On very cold days I will take three batteries with me; this seems to work best.

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Dec 21, 2020 15:09:37   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
When in Cappadocia last year we took a sunrise Hot Air Balloon ride at 5 am on a sub zero day and to my surprise my D700 battery only lasted a few shots, good thing I had a backup camera with me. I had to remove the battery and keep it a warm pocket before I could get a few more pictures out of it.

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Dec 21, 2020 15:22:35   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
John_F wrote:
And these chemical reactions at the electrodes plus the diffusion inside the battery between the poles are all subject to the laws of thermodynamics.


Exactly.

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Dec 21, 2020 15:34:36   #
goldenyears Loc: Lake Osewgo
 
RonDavis wrote:
...my observation and conclusion…battery life declines rapidly, as much as 50% in very cold weather.


I don't shoot much in cold weather but I definitely observe cold weather reduced battery charge in my hybrid-electric Prius. Where I live winter temperatures average around 40F and summer around 80F. In summer the battery charges to 30 miles as advertised, but in winter only to around 25 miles. That's still plenty of range for pandemic life. The last time I gassed up was in March, and I still have three-quarters of a tank left.

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Dec 21, 2020 15:38:48   #
davidrb Loc: Half way there on the 45th Parallel
 
RonDavis wrote:
This is probably a well-known phenomenon and a well discussed topic, but it’s interesting to me since I just observed it firsthand. I went on a photo shoot on a very cold day in Chicago…..shooting from a breezy high-rise roof top which made it even colder. I started with a fully charged battery in my Fuji X-T2. As I shot multiple exposures, I notice the battery (charge) indicator declined rapidly and went red, indicating complete exhaustion. (At first, I couldn’t believe what was happening because the decline was so fast). I switched to a (warm) battery from my pocket and put it in my (now) colder camera. After a few minutes and a few exposures, the same thing started to happen. I ended the session with about half the shots I usually get from the batteries….(and my freezing hands). So, my observation and conclusion…battery life declines rapidly, as much as 50% in very cold weather. The exposures appeared mostly normal since I stopped shooting before the battery indicator went red. And yes, these are rather new, Mfg labeled batteries. My new practice for cold weather shooting---carry multiple batteries in warm pockets and expect to change them😊 Any quick thoughts would be appreciated…thanks
This is probably a well-known phenomenon and a wel... (show quote)


"Warm" pockets are usually those closest to the body. Coat pockets are detrimental to batteries. Try wearing shirts with breast pockets as they locate batteries in one of the warmest parts of your body. Battery sizes are important factors to keep in mind. The bigger the battery the longer the charge. My 1-Dx battery will run all morning in cold wx while the 5D runs through batteries very quickly. Very few experiences are as demoralizing as running out of batteries while on a shoot.

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Dec 21, 2020 16:05:17   #
SteveLoker Loc: Fort Worth, TX
 
I have the same issue with drone batteries. Where I can get 20-25 minutes in the air in "normal" weather, I can only get 12-15 minutes when it is cold. Even less if I fly at higher altitudes for any length of time.

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Dec 21, 2020 17:48:24   #
dwmoar Loc: Oregon, Willamette Valley
 
Bill 45 wrote:
That why I use in cold weather I use cameras that don't need batteries to work.


Since they are all using a "digital" camera please name just one "Digital" camera that doesn't use batteries.

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