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Dec 14, 2020 11:55:44   #
Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan
 
Tex-s wrote:
Yup, only about 15% of Biden voters surveyed recently had heard of all of the following
1) Hunter Biden laptop story
2) Tara Reade's accusations against Biden
3) Kamala being ranked the most leftist Senator by voting record

And hearing of these, a full 15% said they would not have voted Biden had they known.

The sample size was not too large, but if it's within a 50% margin of error, the election results would have been 1000% different.


That is voter suppression by the Fake News, Big Tech, and Big Pollsters all the enemy of free people.

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Dec 14, 2020 13:10:32   #
Blaster34 Loc: Florida Treasure Coast
 
Tex-s wrote:
Notwithstanding that the actual 'beneficiaries' of the Electoral College are every state and every county that is not among the approximately 9% by geographical area that end up being a numerical majority, it's not even accurate to suggest that the least populated half of the American states are "slave" states. North Dakota, South Dakota, Hawaii, Maine, Vermont, New Hampshire, Wyoming, Montana..... red and blue alike benefit by not having their every national law reflect only the desires of population centers.

EVEREYONE seems to agree that allowing only the rich, or only the male, or only the white, or whatever very narrowly non-uniform coalition might reach 50% plus 1, to make and enforce law is a bad plan. Everyone claims to want to protect racial, ethnic, religious, and lifestyle minorities from oppression (physical and legislative) by the more numerous, but as soon as you suggest that the farmer, rancher, farm hand, ranch hand, roughneck, crop duster or other hard working, God fearing, gun owning Americans deserve some form of protection from the numerical voting majority, it suddenly becomes a bad idea? Don't pretend that Americans would have, in a 1 to 1 counting system, given a full account of what the laws would mean, would have voted for a national Income Tax, Prohibition, the ACA, or even gay marriage, had the voting public known the new law would be wielded as a club against religious people.

The US system has managed to adapt adequately to meet new demands and challenges, to correct some original flaws, and attract immigrants from all regions on Earth, and all without removing the voice of the minority. My belief is that the structure of our system, and it's deliberate avoidance of a purely majority driven means of legislation and of Executive election is the only reason the US survived the Civil War without a dissolution. A purely mathematical majority of the nation would have chosen a far more harsh version for Reconstruction than did Lincoln, and the most likely result would have paralleled the transition from WWI to WWII as the Treaty of Versailles and its massive burden and restriction on Germany virtually guaranteed another conflict.

Then again, it seems that the same folks who want a pure majority election structure are the same folks who seem to love being micromanaged by government, masked, locked down, shut down, and made to be dependent, infantilized. That ethos is simply not American. The American ethos has always been independence and the freedom to succeed or to fail on one's own merits, one's own sweat, free from massive governmental presence. People by the millions have come for opportunity, not for nannies, and it saddens me that one faction of our nation seems to want to usher in the bread line and the soup kitchen for all citizens, a nation of sheep beholden to their overseers for sustenance, born, living and dying in a cage of their own free election.
Notwithstanding that the actual 'beneficiaries' of... (show quote)


Well said...True Democracy is nothing more than Mob Rule.

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Dec 14, 2020 13:14:00   #
Blaster34 Loc: Florida Treasure Coast
 
Fotoartist wrote:
That is voter suppression by the Fake News, Big Tech, and Big Pollsters all the enemy of free people.



Truly sad that real journalism died decades ago...now its nothing more than the liberal elites who control the news media and attempt to implement (force) their agenda on the American people. Hurst & Pulitzer invented 'Yellow Journalism' and they would be so proud of the MSM today since its nothing more than Yellow Journalism.

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Dec 15, 2020 00:08:01   #
cwp3420
 
Frank T wrote:
It's well known that Republicans win elections by voter suppression and with the help of gerrymandering and of course the old slave state's friend, the Electoral College.
Hang in there. January 20 is around the corner and if you don't like it here, you can always relocate to Russia. I here Trump will be living there soon.


Aren’t you quite the linguist. Did you ever graduate from your ESL classes, scared Fwankie?

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Dec 15, 2020 00:09:20   #
cwp3420
 
DennyT wrote:
You once had some degree of credibility but now ......


You’ve never had an ounce of credibility, cultie.

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Dec 15, 2020 00:11:59   #
cwp3420
 
soba1 wrote:
My answer to Beth Moore do we support the party that supports abortion gay marriage pedophilia. The party that supports all that is contrary to the Bible the Gospel of Jesus Christ. I say no; as long as I’m a follower of Christ I will never support a party whose platform is anti-Christian
Anti-Christ


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Amen, brother!!!

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Dec 15, 2020 01:06:01   #
soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
 
thom w wrote:
Trump invented fracking?



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Dec 15, 2020 01:06:29   #
soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
 
cwp3420 wrote:
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Amen, brother!!!



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Dec 15, 2020 01:07:50   #
soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
 
wilpharm wrote:
the Chinese may say that about the Japs....


They had a rivalry

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Dec 15, 2020 05:36:54   #
National Park
 
soba1 wrote:
U want a Chinese dictator Shing Ping who sent Fang Fang to work that thang thang.
But I would prefer an American one. Declare martial law use paper ballots and redo the election.


Be careful what you ask for. Biden would win by 10 million if the election were to be redone.

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Dec 15, 2020 05:37:38   #
National Park
 
boberic wrote:
I am getting very tired of RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA. In fact Russia is unimportant on the world stage. Since the break up of the Soviet Union Russia is very small change. The oil exports from America have put Russia out of business. Thanks Trump for that. There are only 3 countries we have to worry about and only 1 is a serious threat. N.Korea, Iran, and CHINA. And the Biden's are owned by China. In the next 4 years China's stranglehold in the US might grow to very dangerious levels. Trump. at least. tried to put a stop a stop to this. and it may not have worked. But he is the only president omong the last 3 who tried.
I am getting very tired of RUSSIA RUSSIA RUSSIA. ... (show quote)


Nonsense

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Dec 15, 2020 10:53:07   #
Tex-s
 
National Park wrote:
Be careful what you ask for. Biden would win by 10 million if the election were to be redone.


Very few people are suggesting that they would not concede a defeat in a transparent, law-abiding election. Also, you could be very wrong, as about 75% of Biden voters polled had not heard of several stories, from Kamala's voting record to Tara Reade, to the Hunter laptop, to Biden's racially dismissive comments. Once informed, the poll showed 15% would not have voted Biden. Any re-vote would surely include a major push to make those stories appear front and center at local rallies, local advertising, etc. A 15% shift would represent about 25 million votes not cast for Biden and cast for Trump. that would project out to 40+ million more Trump votes than Biden, were the projection accurate.

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Dec 15, 2020 10:58:25   #
soba1 Loc: Somewhere In So Ca
 
Tex-s wrote:
Very few people are suggesting that they would not concede a defeat in a transparent, law-abiding election. Also, you could be very wrong, as about 75% of Biden voters polled had not heard of several stories, from Kamala's voting record to Tara Reade, to the Hunter laptop, to Biden's racially dismissive comments. Once informed, the poll showed 15% would not have voted Biden. Any re-vote would surely include a major push to make those stories appear front and center at local rallies, local advertising, etc. A 15% shift would represent about 25 million votes not cast for Biden and cast for Trump. that would project out to 40+ million more Trump votes than Biden, were the projection accurate.
Very few people are suggesting that they would not... (show quote)





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Dec 15, 2020 11:09:59   #
National Park
 
Tex-s wrote:
Very few people are suggesting that they would not concede a defeat in a transparent, law-abiding election. Also, you could be very wrong, as about 75% of Biden voters polled had not heard of several stories, from Kamala's voting record to Tara Reade, to the Hunter laptop, to Biden's racially dismissive comments. Once informed, the poll showed 15% would not have voted Biden. Any re-vote would surely include a major push to make those stories appear front and center at local rallies, local advertising, etc. A 15% shift would represent about 25 million votes not cast for Biden and cast for Trump. that would project out to 40+ million more Trump votes than Biden, were the projection accurate.
Very few people are suggesting that they would not... (show quote)


blah, blah, blah. Woulda, coulda, shoulda... You live in a nonexistent reality.

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