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Nov 10, 2020 10:08:50   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Sirsnapalot wrote:
Photography is very subjective, it’s not always “what’s good for the goose is good for the gander”! Always keep that into consideration when judging your own work.......


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Nov 10, 2020 10:14:07   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
Suzanne Caris wrote:
The lighting is a whole new issue. I have a junky cheap 2 light with diffusing umbrellas. 2 work spotlight behind on the back drop.

I made the best out of what I have but ill try raising them some. I should have shifted my lights but it was a quick trial run and I don't plan to have the kids looking everywhere like I did with her.


The "light" doesn't care what is holding it, only people do.
A more expensive setup will not give you better light, unless you lack control of the light.
It all depends on the light positioning.

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Nov 10, 2020 10:40:01   #
d3200prime
 
Suzanne Caris wrote:
Good morning fellow photographers. I took this series as a trial run for a small preschool I was asked to shoot kid headshots by a friend. I have very limited experience with portrait photography. If anyone has any feedback on these I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks in advance


The backdrop is drawing attention away from the subject. Use a white, black, or some muted colored backdrop. The clothes are too flashy and also detract from the subject. In portraiture, all minor elements of the shot should be secondary. The subject and only the subject should stand out.

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Nov 10, 2020 11:53:10   #
Quixdraw Loc: x
 
Good efforts - bad background - had the same situation, the customer picked the background. Worst portraits I've ever taken. Kodak had a little book on Portraiture - still available on the internet for a few dollars - simple & worthwhile. Also, if you search Introduction to Portrait Photography, lots of useful info. There is a line between too few and too many photos in this context - IMO just enough is better than too many!

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Nov 10, 2020 16:33:53   #
Jay Pat Loc: Round Rock, Texas, USA
 
I'm no expert.


Your camera settings were: 1/50 sec., f/3.5, ISO 200.

1. I think #3 is your best at framing the head/upper body.

2.The nose appears to me to be out of focus. The eyes are the sharpest part of the image. The hair around the ear is out of focus. You have a very narrow depth of field that is in focus.

If it were me I would,
A. Use a fast shutter speed (shorter shutter duration to freeze the slightest movement)
B. Use a higher f/number for a greater depth of field.
C. Use a higher ISO to make the above happen.

I can't say what the actual numbers for your situation would be.
I would take several images of each child.

How young are these pre-schoolers? A squeaky toy may be a great tool to get them to look where you want them to look. Squeakies work good for adults, too!!

The background..... As said, it is distracting. If the background screen is large enough and you have room, push it back as far as you can so it will be more out of focus (soften it up more). Or, use a "nonbusy" wall in the school. And place the kids far out in front of it.

Consider framing the subjects with a wider view. This will give you more options in "post" to frame for different size images (8x10 5x7).

And then, more test shots of your willing subject for us to review!

Pre-schoolers... I would think they could wiggle around a bit. Consider that in your settings.
One moment they could move their head slightly closer or farther away from your camera.

I hope you get permission from the parents to post here on UHH. We would like to see the final results!!
I hope this is helpful!
Maybe others will jump in with more ideas/clarifications!
Pat

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Nov 11, 2020 01:47:38   #
Real Nikon Lover Loc: Simi Valley, CA
 
Suzanne Caris wrote:
Good morning fellow photographers. I took this series as a trial run for a small preschool I was asked to shoot kid headshots by a friend. I have very limited experience with portrait photography. If anyone has any feedback on these I would greatly appreciate it.

Thanks in advance


Suzanne it is a good start! I took the liberty of taking #2 which had the most "distracting background" and toned it down and touched up a couple spots and cropped the photo a tad to focus on the young lady's face. As photographers not all shots are great and post processing has saved many a photo. Good job and good luck. No fear! :)

-Jim E.



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Nov 11, 2020 06:23:49   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
This rendering works in several ways to improve on the original.

The effect of unnatural skintone (orange), however, distracts from the main subject -- the young female. Disregard this effect. Try for a natural skintone whenever possible.

If the coloration proves too burdensome to bring to a natural presentation, then try reducing the image to black-and-white. I have done so here as an example.

Note that portraits done in black-and-white often produce a very dramatic rendering of the subject.
Real Nikon Lover wrote:
Suzanne it is a good start! I took the liberty of taking #2 which had the most "distracting background" and toned it down and touched up a couple spots and cropped the photo a tad to focus on the young lady's face. As photographers not all shots are great and post processing has saved many a photo. Good job and good luck. No fear! :)

-Jim E.

Version in Black-and-White
Version in Black-and-White...

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Nov 11, 2020 07:14:14   #
Dalek Loc: Detroit, Miami, Goffstown
 
Tilt her head downward for a more pleasing shot. Also, try a different background, something a bit less busy.

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Nov 11, 2020 09:01:54   #
Xanadu Loc: Clay County FL
 
I agree that the backgroud is somewhat distracting. However, the dress itself is distracting. I don't know the circumstances you are faced with. If possible, I would request your subjects wear plain drab clothing. The picture is not about garments but about the person.

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Nov 11, 2020 09:20:14   #
maxlieberman Loc: 19027
 
She s only looking "up" significantly in one picture. I think the picture of her are charming, well-posed and well-exposed. I agree about the background; either something less intrusive, or have the subject be far enough away so that you can blur it into bokeh.

Being slightly below your subject tends to project her better because it flatters (unless there is a lower facial feature you want to deemphasise); being above her would not be flattering, and eye-level could morph into a mug shot. Good work.

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Nov 11, 2020 09:40:19   #
AzPicLady Loc: Behind the camera!
 
Suzanne Caris wrote:
The director really liked this one. Any chance I could make it less distracting?


Move the people further away from the background and use a shallow DOF. And try to make sure that whatever lighting you use falls off before hitting the background.

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Nov 11, 2020 09:56:44   #
phildee Loc: Oceanside, NY
 
Nice work! Could be more colorful. I don’t like the background. Maybe you a try again?

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Nov 11, 2020 09:57:18   #
tcthome Loc: NJ
 
Suzanne Caris wrote:
I have limited access to backdrops. I showed the director my selection and this one she really liked. Any suggestions on making this one less distracting?


Good move in showing the director. If they like the shots at that camera level, stay with it. Of course it doesn't hurt to try other positions before the shoot. Good luck.

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Nov 11, 2020 10:24:11   #
Wes Loc: Dallas
 
Suzanne, save this for the yearbook. She'll be forever grateful.



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Nov 11, 2020 10:51:56   #
Real Nikon Lover Loc: Simi Valley, CA
 
anotherview wrote:
....Note that portraits done in black-and-white often produce a very dramatic rendering of the subject.


Agree!!! B&W have saved many a photo. Also agree about the heavy skin tone on my version of the makeover. In 5 mins, late at night, I failed to properly review my final rendering. Another valid point... don't process photos when you are exhausted. You will miss things and your eyes get tired. 🤣🤣🤣

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