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Nov 6, 2020 06:57:39   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
AD 1947 - 'MEET THE PRESS' ... America's longest running television show debuts on the NATIONAL BROADCASTING COMPANY TELEVISION NETWORK.

AD 1929 - The PROVIDENCE STEAM ROLLER is the first NATIONAL FOOTBALL LEAGUE team to host a night game under artificial lighting. The defending champion Steam Roller lost to the visiting CHICAGO CARDINALS by a score of 16-0. The event was held before a capacity crowd of 10,000 at the CYCLEDROME in Providence, Rhode Island

1860 AD - Abraham Lincoln and Hannibal Hamlin of the Republican Party were elected President and Vice Presidentof the United States of America with 180 electoral college votes.

John Cabell Breckinridge and Joseph Lane of the Southern Democratic Party finished second with 72 electoral college votes.

John Bell and Edward Everett of the Constitutional Union Party came in third with 39 electoral votes.

Stephen Arnold Douglas and Herschel Vespasian Johnson of the Democratic Party finished fourth with 12 electoral votes.

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Nov 6, 2020 07:46:03   #
raymondh Loc: Walker, MI
 

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Nov 6, 2020 08:53:04   #
Mac Loc: Pittsburgh, Philadelphia now Hernando Co. Fl.
 

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Nov 6, 2020 10:40:24   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
Meet the Press....an outstanding program for so many years. What happened?

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Nov 6, 2020 13:05:23   #
DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA
 
There is much talk about how the Electoral College disables the popular vote. There's more to it than that.

The Electoral College pretty much locks us in to a two-party system.

If nobody gets a majority in the EC, the election for President goes into the House of Representatives. BUT, each Rrepresentative doesn't get a vote. The states each have one vote in that process. That makes the process even less representative of the popular vote.

(Of course there are currently more than two parties, but only two of them have a major impact, unlike European parties [not that I'm suggesting following that chaotic model])

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Nov 6, 2020 16:15:37   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
DirtFarmer wrote:
There is much talk about how the Electoral College disables the popular vote. There's more to it than that.

The Electoral College pretty much locks us in to a two-party system.

If nobody gets a majority in the EC, the election for President goes into the House of Representatives. BUT, each Rrepresentative doesn't get a vote. The states each have one vote in that process. That makes the process even less representative of the popular vote.

(Of course there are currently more than two parties, but only two of them have a major impact, unlike European parties [not that I'm suggesting following that chaotic model])
There is much talk about how the Electoral College... (show quote)


Wild!! As a result, despite the fact that there may be more Representatives from one party, a large number of them may be from a few states. The candidate who has the advantage of more Representatives from the most States would win the election. This would mean that Montana's 3 Representatives voting as a block would get 1 vote just like California's 55 Representatives voting as a block. Interesting, but that's how the Founding Fathers chose to do it. It all had to do with States. They put the importance of individual States over individual individuals. Not quite how most people think today, but how they thought when they wrote the Constitution.

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Nov 6, 2020 16:49:30   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
SteveR wrote:
Wild!! As a result, despite the fact that there may be more Representatives from one party, a large number of them may be from a few states. The candidate who has the advantage of more Representatives from the most States would win the election. This would mean that Montana's 3 Representatives voting as a block would get 1 vote just like California's 55 Representatives voting as a block. Interesting, but that's how the Founding Fathers chose to do it. It all had to do with States. They put the importance of individual States over individual individuals. Not quite how most people think today, but how they thought when they wrote the Constitution.
Wild!! As a result, despite the fact that there m... (show quote)


Almost.

They assumed that the people would elect the most honest and intelligent local people to their state legislatures to represent their interests, and those legislators would select the smartest and most honest from among themselves to represent that state's citizens interest and those electors would select the smartest and most honest candidate.

That's why Washington was elected unanimously twice.

It was 1796 that a prototype version of our modern election process began.

By today it has devolved into who has the best combination of money, TV coverage and Barbara Streisand.

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Nov 6, 2020 17:00:06   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
LWW wrote:
Almost.

They assumed that the people would elect the most honest and intelligent local people to their state legislatures to represent their interests, and those legislators would select the smartest and most honest from among themselves to represent that state's citizens interest and those electors would select the smartest and most honest candidate.

That's why Washington was elected unanimously twice.

It was 1796 that a prototype version of our modern election process began.

By today it has devolved into who has the best combination of money, TV coverage and Barbara Streisand.
Almost. br br They assumed that the people would ... (show quote)


True, but we were discussing a Contingent Election in case of an electoral vote tie and its procedure as set forth in the Constitution. Imagine Antifa if it's candidate lost with a majority of Representatives in the House but losing the block vote of states.

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