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Nov 4, 2020 09:05:08   #
StanMac Loc: Tennessee
 
WDCash wrote:
I shot this heron a few weeks ago as we were headed out Big Creek.
He wasn't very cooperative as we tried to come closer. The picture came out better then expected but required a sizable crop to remove some unwanted background. I wanted to maintain the water in the lower right corner to show the bird is leaving the water edge. However the edge of the water and brush intersection seems much too harsh. It stands out like I pasted it onto the image. I thought this was my fault (well it has to be I took the shot) and tried playing with reducing the sharpness to soften the line.
Any thoughts on why the water's edge looks so odd?


Thanks
I shot this heron a few weeks ago as we were heade... (show quote)


If that is what the SOOC image looks like, it is weird! It looks like a reflection of the surface of the water on something in front of the lens.

Stan

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Nov 4, 2020 09:27:59   #
fergmark Loc: norwalk connecticut
 
WDCash wrote:
What do you mean "it's the boat"? Are you suggesting the line itself is part of the boat? Please download and look closely it is the water in big creek. The water itself isn't my question. I'm trying to figure why its such a straight unnatural line.
Thanks for the thought.


I know from shooting from a traveling vehicle that keeping the frame of the window or the rear view window is not all that easy. Many times I have seen just a part of the window frame in the photo and wondered what the heck is that. The only possible answer was that it was part of the window frame.

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Nov 4, 2020 09:29:00   #
Bultaco Loc: Aiken, SC
 
Were you using any camera support?

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Nov 4, 2020 10:11:44   #
yorkiebyte Loc: Scottsdale, AZ/Bandon by the Sea, OR
 
...I'd worry more about the subject bird being out of focus/blurred and the distracting background/buildings than the lower corner that could be cropped/cloned out!
....but that's just my own opinion......

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Nov 4, 2020 10:55:46   #
relbugman Loc: MD/FL/CA/SC
 
Look closely at a blow-up. There is water around and to the right of the near leg (foot under the water). It has entirely different characteristics than the water in front, including the straight edge that could not be. The 'reflections' in the stream are not in line with the stems and leg, or offset to the right. The reflections of the slanted grass to the left of the leg are not in line and are not slanted. Ditto to the far right. And the stems just to the right of the leg are near horizontal while the reflections are vertical, and reflections of the dark stems are missing. The water in front is not from the same image! or at least shifted sideways from elsewhere. The line is an artifact of pasting. In short, none of the reflections line up. Things are not what you say!

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Nov 4, 2020 12:50:38   #
SalvageDiver Loc: Huntington Beach CA
 
WDCash wrote:
What do you mean "it's the boat"? Are you suggesting the line itself is part of the boat? Please download and look closely it is the water in big creek. The water itself isn't my question. I'm trying to figure why its such a straight unnatural line.
Thanks for the thought.


Two things tell me its not the water. 1) The straight line showing no water wrappings around the reeds along the bank. 2) The reflections don't match the image right above it. This reflection is coming from an elevated position. In fact, the reflection isn't even representative of the bank, its showing blue sky where there should be reeds on the bank.

I'm inclined to agree with fergmark. It appears to be a reflection off a smooth reflective surface like a shiny fiberglass deck.

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Nov 4, 2020 14:10:13   #
bluezzzzz Loc: Stamping Ground, KY
 
WDCash wrote:
OK so here is the image as shot. About as SOC as I can manage. Shot RAW so I have done with this vr is convert it from RAW to JPG

The boat was moving, slowly left to right vs the bank. Hand held. 1/1250 sec and iso400


WDCash, you've taken an interesting and very puzzling shot of this heron!

I keep coming back to look at this again and again in an attempt to figure it out...

I believe that you have caught a freaky-timed photo of the wake of the boat you were in, catching the edge of the wake just as it rolls over into the shoreline grass.

Marshall

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Nov 4, 2020 15:46:51   #
wjv
 
The picture looks like there was a wave from your boat that created the straight line of the wave crest. If you look at water around the heron's feet it is at a lower level.

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Nov 4, 2020 16:06:35   #
RayF Loc: New Jersey
 
I think you are being a bit hard on yourself.

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Nov 4, 2020 19:02:00   #
John from gpwmi Loc: Michigan
 
Wake from the boat? You could carefully clone some grass to cover it, because it doesn't seem you can make the water look natural.

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Nov 5, 2020 18:12:06   #
WDCash Loc: Milford, Delaware, USA
 
maxlieberman wrote:
Throw a selection around it, then do: Edit - Fill Selection - Content Aware Fill; then clone any obviuous artifacts.


Fixing or removing isnt a problem. Just looking for thoughts on what might cause it.
Its not part of the boat, not a reflection from the boat, both are impossible.
Could be that the tind was still headed in, boat headed out and a bit of wake movement adding to water movement, but the shutter froze everything else?

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Nov 5, 2020 18:12:36   #
WDCash Loc: Milford, Delaware, USA
 
blacks2 wrote:
Excellent.


Thanjs blacks2.

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Nov 5, 2020 18:16:30   #
WDCash Loc: Milford, Delaware, USA
 
fergmark wrote:
I know from shooting from a traveling vehicle that keeping the frame of the window or the rear view window is not all that easy. Many times I have seen just a part of the window frame in the photo and wondered what the heck is that. The only possible answer was that it was part of the window frame.


Thanks fergmark, But. There is no window frame. Im shooting over the side gunnal of an open boat. The side top is at 26" Im sitting and the camera is at aprox 40" plus the front edge of the camera hood is just past the boat or over the water.
Good thoughts but no cigar😁

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Nov 5, 2020 18:17:07   #
WDCash Loc: Milford, Delaware, USA
 
Bultaco wrote:
Were you using any camera support?


Sir Bulto. (Bultaco)
Nope support, freehand

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Nov 5, 2020 18:19:59   #
WDCash Loc: Milford, Delaware, USA
 
bluezzzzz wrote:
WDCash, you've taken an interesting and very puzzling shot of this heron!

I keep coming back to look at this again and again in an attempt to figure it out...

I believe that you have caught a freaky-timed photo of the wake of the boat you were in, catching the edge of the wake just as it rolls over into the shoreline grass.

Marshall


Marshall,
I think your correct.
Thanks

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