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Oct 19, 2020 11:29:12   #
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BebuLamar wrote:
Isn't the part that is moving as you focus a mirror? The viewfinder is indeed a prism.


Look at the dismantled mechanism in the link. You could also read the text but it’s pretty tedious.

FWIW most cheaper RF cameras do have mirrors where Leicas have prisms ... just like Canon Rebels have penta-mirrors instead of pentaprisms.

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Oct 19, 2020 11:53:54   #
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ralphhipps wrote:
https://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/mirrorless/lenses/ftz.htm

from Ken's page:

The adapter only works properly (autofocuses) with Nikon's newest lenses, which are those with built-in AF motors (AF-I, AF-S and AF-P). With all other lenses autofocus does not work. AF and AF‑D lenses become manual focus only.

Manual-focus F, AI converted, AI and AI‑s lenses on the FTZ have 1.) no automatic diaphragm control so you have to open and close the diaphragm manually for each shot for precise focus, and 2.) absolutely no communication between camera and lens so the camera, meter and EXIF data have no idea what aperture you're using, and 3.) the camera has no ability to set the taking aperture so there is no Program or Shutter-priority modes with these lenses. 1984's Nikon FA or any FX DSLR do all this and so much more with manual-focus lenses, but the FTZ is a zero and you may as well use a cheap passive Chinese adapter for manual-focus lenses — it will have the same functions and save you over $200.

The sad reality is that the longer-term Nikon shooter you are, the less you will want the FTZ because less and less works with older lenses. The FTZ is really only for people with recent lenses. It does not do Nikon's great legacy proud, but for most normal people with lenses less than ten years old all should work great. Just don't fall for Nikon's deceptive marketing implying that older lenses work well — they don't.
https://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/mirrorless/lense... (show quote)

Your version of “old” is lesser than mine. Your “old” is “middle aged” to me and many others. Great old F-mount lenses function 100% on the FTZ. No electronics, manual focus by design, and the auto iris convenience is fully operational.

Z6 plus FTZ plus Ai/Ai-s equals perfection. Substitute an AF SLR for the Z6 and you lose the accurate enhanced MF ability of LV cameras (all makes and models). AF SLRs have nonfocusing view screens, so LV cameras are a wondrous rebirth for manual lenses.

I acknowledge that many have read reports to the contrary of the above and I’ve read some of that as well. But cuz I actually use such gear, I immediately recognize clueless writing when I see it.

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Oct 19, 2020 14:09:50   #
Bob Smith Loc: Banjarmasin
 
If you have invested a shedload of cash in what you have now and are happy why change. But if your stuff is getting worn out go for mirrorless all the companies are changing to it and eventually and by eventually read a long time SLR's will be phased out

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Oct 19, 2020 14:47:00   #
SFarchitect
 
After tramping through the Vatican and the Coloseum with a Canon 7D and a very heavy lens I looked seriously at the Mirrorless cameras and then jumped in. Discovered there are times for each.

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Oct 19, 2020 15:26:26   #
Don.Y Loc: East Ballina,NSW.,Australia
 
Mirrorless cameras aren't the only ones with in camera stabilization. I have an old Pentax K100D DSLR that has stabilization built in. I assume Pentax still has this system in later models. I've got a 4/3 Olympus E-3 DSLR & it also has in body stabilization. Regards Don.

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Oct 20, 2020 04:23:34   #
petrochemist Loc: UK
 
Don.Y wrote:
Mirrorless cameras aren't the only ones with in camera stabilization. I have an old Pentax K100D DSLR that has stabilization built in. I assume Pentax still has this system in later models. I've got a 4/3 Olympus E-3 DSLR & it also has in body stabilization. Regards Don.


Indeed 75% of my DSLRs have in camera stabilisation (the exception being the Sigma SD14 which is almost as old as the K100d) while only one of my five mirrorless cameras have it.

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Oct 24, 2020 00:47:18   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
petrochemist wrote:
Indeed 75% of my DSLRs have in camera stabilisation (the exception being the Sigma SD14 which is almost as old as the K100d) while only one of my five mirrorless cameras have it.


Interesting. My experience is the opposite of that. My mirrorless all have in-camera stabilization whereas my DSLR depends on the lenses to provide the stabilization.

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Oct 24, 2020 08:04:53   #
petrochemist Loc: UK
 
JD750 wrote:
Interesting. My experience is the opposite of that. My mirrorless all have in-camera stabilization whereas my DSLR depends on the lenses to provide the stabilization.


I did suspect I was in the minority. I tend to avoid the most popular brands in DSLRs & went to mirrorless long before IBIS was available (starting with the G1)

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Oct 24, 2020 12:11:36   #
JD750 Loc: SoCal
 
petrochemist wrote:
I did suspect I was in the minority. I tend to avoid the most popular brands in DSLRs & went to mirrorless long before IBIS was available (starting with the G1)


Oh yes, like you, I too started with “mirrorless” years and years ago. I still have a G1 it’s back in the back of the cabinet somewhere. I forgot about that, it does not have in-camera IS.

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Nov 2, 2020 07:12:59   #
Bbarn Loc: Ohio
 
I've been using a cropped format DSLR for several years, but recently I decided to acquire a FF format camera. Since I was going to be investing in some lenses anyway, I went mirrorless. For me, seeing exposure level image brightness and a non-dimmed depth of field are among the greatest benefits of the platform. Making the switch also gave me the opportunity to switch camera brands without as much of a penalty.

All of the above is a real boon to camera and lens makers.

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