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Oct 16, 2020 09:34:42   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Old lenses fail as well.
All AF lenses fail with all the extra parts, and those parts are NOT all metal.
I have 40 year old "Plastic" lenses that work just fine.


This is true. I have two metal Nikkors (1978 24mm f/2.8 and 1980 55mm f/2.8 AI Micro) that no longer work properly. The 24 has severe coma and vignetting, and the 55 focus collar is frozen (for the third time). Yet my cheap, heavily used Vivitar 135mm f/2.8 from 1975 still works flawlessly on my son’s camera, using an adapter.

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Oct 16, 2020 09:57:17   #
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burkphoto wrote:
Camera body:

Ergonomics, menu clarity
Weight, size, balance
Video and audio flexibility
Autofocus system
Features suited for the work I do
In-body image stabilization
Sensor technology
JPEG and video processor capabilities
Firmware history

Lenses:

Balance, weight, ergonomics
Sharpness, field flatness, freedom from flaws like chromatic aberration, distortion, and coma
Zoom range (if zoom)
In-lens image stabilization
Maximum aperture
Firmware history

...But beyond all that, and more important than any of that, is my willingness to learn to use it, and the photography knowledge, experience, viewpoints, attitudes, and foresights I bring to the gear.
Camera body: br br Ergonomics, menu clarity br We... (show quote)

We often disagree but here we do not, not in the least.

Differing perspectives can intersect :-)

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Oct 16, 2020 10:18:48   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
User ID wrote:
Differing perspectives can intersect :-)


and, hopefully, from this we may learn something .....

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Oct 16, 2020 10:19:30   #
DavidPine Loc: Fredericksburg, TX
 
NMGal wrote:
Really not sure how to word this. If you do not have a preference for a particular camera brand and went shopping for a good system, would you consider a camera based on the following? Sensor, processor and/or lenses. Consider putting a mediocre lens on an excellent camera because of weight or cost? Buying a medium camera and putting excellent, expensive, weighty glass on it. I guess the question is, is the sensor, processor or lens the most important component? I do hope this is not the stupidest question you have heard.
Really not sure how to word this. If you do not h... (show quote)


How does it feel in your hands and can you easily obtain good glass.

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Oct 16, 2020 15:10:51   #
ronpier Loc: Poland Ohio
 
LWW wrote:
My biggest issue with new glass isn't the glass, its the construction.

New stuff is almost always plastic and using tin solder. Both limit the useful lifespan of the product.

Older NIKKOR lenses, again no offense to other brands but these I am most familiar with, AF AFD and MF lenses can withstand amazing amounts of use and abuse.

If they don't have fungus or delimitation they will usually outlive the owner.

They also have a contact and color rendition, even in their lower level slower glass, that is seldom matched in modern lenses.

One of the best sports and wildlife primes ever made by anybody, IMHO the best, is the NIKKOR 180mm AF-D f2.8.

At twenty seven ounces and under 6 inches in length it is 63 ounces lighter and with a 52mm smaller diameter ... as well as being much shorter ... than a 300mm AFS-II f2.8, even though when mounted on an APS-C it offers an extremely close FOV as the 300 on a FF body.
My biggest issue with new glass isn't the glass, i... (show quote)


All of mine are heavy, some heavier than others, built extremely well, sharp, very small financial outlay. I use them on my APS-Cs along with my newer AF-S lenses. Good to go!!

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Oct 16, 2020 17:51:05   #
FlMermaid Loc: Vero Beach, FL
 
I second those who advise getting to a brick and mortar store. The camera (with the attached lens) has to feel good in your hands and it must be easy to work all those dials. About 2 1/2 years ago I was ready to get serious about my new photography hobby. It was time for a great camera and lenses. I only had to drive 60 miles but I would go many more if needed, to get to a store. The employees on hand are also very knowledgeable and helpful. They should let you try out several cameras with lens of different sizes attached. I thought I knew what I wanted but if I had ordered that particular system without physically handling it, that would have been a huge mistake for me. I ended up with a totally different brand and almost three years later, I still love it. So for various reasons, all the components are important. Absolutely, good glass is a must. Enjoy the adventure and happy shooting!

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Oct 16, 2020 17:52:44   #
dat2ra Loc: Sacramento
 
There are no "bad cameras" for sale now. Once you figure your price range and what kind of photos you'll be taking, it's all a matter of preference.

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Oct 18, 2020 10:53:40   #
1Feathercrest Loc: NEPA
 
Most photographers seem to focus mainly on the equipment and what can be accomplished with it. A expert photographer sees what is eligible for capture and then captures it with what ever equipment is at hand, whether it is a $10 film camera or the most expensive digital from the premier camera makers. The work produced is STILL the
expression of the (artist) photographer, NOT the camera and manipulation.

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Oct 18, 2020 11:09:00   #
tomad Loc: North Carolina
 
The glass is the most important. The camera depends on what kind of photography you want to use it for, i.e., birds in flight require a camera with very sophisticated fast continuous focusing but if you only do landscapes a simple box camera with four controls (aperture, shutter speed, ISO, and focus) would work. The sensor generally depends on what you intend to do with your photos, i.e., posting on the internet is ok with a cell phone sized sensor, enlarging up to 8x10 a small point and shoot camera sensor, enlarging up to 16x24 a (so-called) 1" sensor will do, anything bigger you need an APS-C or full frame.

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Oct 18, 2020 14:37:13   #
mtbear
 
Lenses are a more durable investment. I'm still using 15 and 20 year old lenses but have upgraded my bodies several times. I know my old lenses are not optimal for the new bodies but they are adequate for the majority of work I do, if they are not then it's time to buy new.

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Oct 18, 2020 16:04:30   #
shelty Loc: Medford, OR
 
1, Glass, 2, Sensor, 3, All the rest.

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