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Sep 21, 2020 09:44:43   #
JamesCurran Loc: Trenton ,NJ
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Oh please, Biden occupied that office and his drug idled son made countless millions over the course of his two terms by selling his fathers influence over US policy, it has been documented.


Well, I'm sure that some of his clients thought they were buying influence by hiring Hunter, buit there is ZERO evidence that it had any effect. In fact, Biden's forcing the replacement of the corrupt prosecutor with an honest one lead directly to a company that had hired Hunter to be investigation for corruption.

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Sep 21, 2020 10:02:17   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
JamesCurran wrote:
Well, I'm sure that some of his clients thought they were buying influence by hiring Hunter, buit there is ZERO evidence that it had any effect. In fact, Biden's forcing the replacement of the corrupt prosecutor with an honest one lead directly to a company that had hired Hunter to be investigation for corruption.


"Aw Come on man! China is no competition for US!" Total BS coming from Biden's mouth while his son reaped millions managing a $billion + fund for China, little Hunter Biden, while his father helped to push through purchases of companies for the Chinese government of dual use manufacturing that otherwise would have probably never been approved.... Why do you folks choose to wear blinders? Why would China choose drug idled Hunter instead of Goldman Sacs? Please at least admit that there are smelly fish in Biden's closet.

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Sep 21, 2020 12:15:11   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
papakatz45 wrote:
You support shooting the president because you do not like him?


As you can see HarryO is part of the violent Left who does believe, by his own words, in taking out a President or anybody else by violent means when the ideas of the Left are not met. This is what the Democratic Party has come down to.

Dennis

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Sep 21, 2020 12:40:48   #
JamesCurran Loc: Trenton ,NJ
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
"Aw Come on man! China is no competition for US!" Total BS coming from Biden's mouth while his son reaped millions managing a $billion + fund for China, little Hunter Biden, while his father helped to push through purchases of companies for the Chinese government of dual use manufacturing that otherwise would have probably never been approved.... Why do you folks choose to wear blinders? Why would China choose drug idled Hunter instead of Goldman Sacs? Please at least admit that there are smelly fish in Biden's closet.
"Aw Come on man! China is no competition for ... (show quote)


China is a big country. Not everything is tied to the government. Biden founded BHR Partners (not an employee), to aid investment by Chinese bank outside of China. It has no involvement with the Chinese government, nor any manufacturing interests internal to China. ALso, how did you determine that the purchases wouldn't have been approved? (There is a very high bar to block a sale --- almost all go thru)

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Sep 21, 2020 14:12:30   #
Blurryeyed Loc: NC Mountains.
 
JamesCurran wrote:
China is a big country. Not everything is tied to the government. Biden founded BHR Partners (not an employee), to aid investment by Chinese bank outside of China. It has no involvement with the Chinese government, nor any manufacturing interests internal to China. ALso, how did you determine that the purchases wouldn't have been approved? (There is a very high bar to block a sale --- almost all go thru)


Really, you are going to defend both of those POSes? Typical for a demonic. The fact is that the bank does indeed have ties and is controlled by the Chinese government and Biden through his fund has purchased business concerns in the US that the Chinese would not be able to purchase without objections coming from the government. You are defending folks who are selling influence and traitors to the American people.


https://justthenews.com/accountability/political-ethics/how-hunter-biden-tied-hedge-fund-helped-communist-china-obtain

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Sep 21, 2020 20:43:33   #
Shutterbug1697 Loc: Northeast
 
Shutterbug1697 wrote:
Actually Ford pardoned Nixon for any crimes which Nixon MIGHT have committed against the United States.

But in reality, Nixon was NEVER CONVICTED of any crime!

Nixon wasn't even impeached! He got close, but he House of Representatives never completed the impeachment process. The GOP, was so concerned with the evidence which had been collected that Senior members of the GOP went to Nixon and advised Nixon to resign, which Nixon did.

trump WAS IMPEACHED, that's the difference between Nixon and trump!
Actually Ford pardoned Nixon for any crimes which ... (show quote)


Rose42 wrote:
You never fail to amuse.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Impeachment_process_against_Richard_Nixon
"The impeachment process against Richard Nixon began in the United States House of Representatives on October 30, 1973, following the series of high-level resignations and firings widely called the "Saturday Night Massacre" during the course of the Watergate scandal. The House Committee on the Judiciary set up an impeachment inquiry staff and began investigations into possible impeachable offenses by Richard Nixon, the 37th president of the United States. The process was formally initiated on February 6, 1974, when the House granted the Judiciary Committee authority to investigate whether sufficient grounds existed to impeach Nixon of high crimes and misdemeanors under Article II, Section 4, of the United States Constitution. This investigation was undertaken one year after the United States Senate established the Select Committee on Presidential Campaign Activities to investigate the 1972 break-in at the Democratic National Committee headquarters at the Watergate office complex in Washington, D.C., and the Republican Nixon administration's attempted cover-up of its involvement; during those hearings the scope of the scandal became apparent and the existence of the Nixon White House tapes was revealed.

Following an April 1974 subpoena from the Judiciary Committee, edited transcripts of 42 taped White House conversations relevant to the Watergate cover-up were finally made public by Nixon. However, the committee pressed for the audio tapes themselves, and subsequently issued subpoenas for additional tapes, all of which Nixon had refused. That same month, Nixon also refused to comply with a subpoena from special prosecutor Leon Jaworski for 64 Watergate-related tapes. Ultimately, on July 24, 1974, the United States Supreme Court issued a unanimous decision against Nixon, which ordered him to comply.

On May 9, 1974, formal hearings in the impeachment inquiry of Nixon began, culminating July 27–30, 1974, when members of the Democratic-led Judiciary Committee eventually approved three articles of impeachment. The articles charged Nixon with: 1) obstruction of justice in attempting to impede the investigation of the Watergate break-in, protect those responsible, and conceal the existence of other illegal activities; 2) abuse of power by using the office of the presidency on multiple occasions, dating back to the first year of his administration (1969), to unlawfully use federal agencies, such as the Internal Revenue Service and the Federal Bureau of Investigation, as well as establishing a covert White House special investigative unit, to violate the constitutional rights of citizens and interfere with lawful investigations; and 3) contempt of Congress by refusing to comply with congressional subpoenas.[2] These articles were reported to the House of Representatives for final action, with 7 of the committee's 17 Republicans joining all 21 of its Democrats in voting in favor of one or more of the articles. Two other articles were debated in committee but were rejected. Based on the strength of the evidence presented and the bipartisan support for the articles in committee, House leaders of both political parties concluded that Nixon's impeachment by the full House was a certainty if it reached the House floor for a final vote, and that his conviction in a Senate trial was a distinct possibility.

On August 5, 1974, Nixon released a transcript of one of the additional conversations to the public, known as the "smoking gun" tape, which made clear his complicity in the Watergate cover-up. This disclosure destroyed Nixon politically. His most loyal defenders in Congress announced they would vote to impeach and convict Nixon for obstructing justice. Republican congressional leaders met with Nixon that his impeachment and removal were all but certain. Thereupon, Nixon gave up the struggle to remain in office, resigning the presidency on August 9, 1974, before the full House could vote on the articles of impeachment."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pardon_of_Richard_Nixon
"The pardon of Richard Nixon (formally known as Proclamation 4311) was a presidential proclamation issued by President of the United States Gerald Ford on September 8, 1974. By it, Ford granted to Richard Nixon, his predecessor, a full and unconditional pardon for any crimes that he might have committed against the United States as president.[1][2] In particular, the pardon covered Nixon's actions during the Watergate scandal. In a televised broadcast to the nation, Ford, who had succeeded to the presidency upon Nixon's resignation, explained that he felt the pardon was in the best interests of the country and that the Nixon family's situation was "a tragedy in which we all have played a part. It could go on and on and on, or someone must write the end to it. I have concluded that only I can do that, and if I can, I must."[3]

After Ford left the White House in 1977, he privately justified his pardon of Nixon by carrying in his wallet a portion of the text of Burdick v. United States, a 1915 U.S. Supreme Court decision that suggested that a pardon carries an imputation of guilt and that its acceptance carries a confession of guilt.[4][5]"

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Sep 21, 2020 21:22:39   #
spokie
 
“...These articles were reported to the House of Representatives for final action, with 7 of the committee's 17 Republicans joining all 21 of its Democrats in voting in favor of one or more of the articles.”

“...This disclosure destroyed Nixon politically. His most loyal defenders in Congress announced they would vote to impeach and convict Nixon for obstructing justice.“


That was from a time when there were honest, decent Republican members of Congress who were able to put country over party.

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Sep 21, 2020 22:18:17   #
Tex-s
 
JamesCurran wrote:
China is a big country. Not everything is tied to the government. Biden founded BHR Partners (not an employee), to aid investment by Chinese bank outside of China. It has no involvement with the Chinese government, nor any manufacturing interests internal to China. ALso, how did you determine that the purchases wouldn't have been approved? (There is a very high bar to block a sale --- almost all go thru)


The only reason 'not everything is tied' to the central Chinese government is because the government has not yet mandated the peasants spin enough rope to tie it all. There is between little and no evidence that the Chinese government is volunteering to allow folks autonomy in affairs in or with China.

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Sep 25, 2020 00:09:02   #
Harry0 Loc: Gardena, Cal
 
papakatz45 wrote:
You support shooting the president because you do not like him?


No. Just because it may need to be done.

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Sep 25, 2020 00:13:47   #
Harry0 Loc: Gardena, Cal
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
Really, you are going to defend both of those POSes? Typical for a demonic. The fact is that the bank does indeed have ties and is controlled by the Chinese government and Biden through his fund has purchased business concerns in the US that the Chinese would not be able to purchase without objections coming from the government. You are defending folks who are selling influence and traitors to the American people.


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Sep 25, 2020 19:23:36   #
papakatz45 Loc: South Florida-West Palm Beach
 
Harry0 wrote:
No. Just because it may need to be done.


Why may it need to be done?

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Sep 25, 2020 19:24:08   #
papakatz45 Loc: South Florida-West Palm Beach
 
And your point?

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Sep 25, 2020 23:58:31   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Harry0 wrote:
No. Just because it may need to be done.


So then you accept it is permissible to shoot the POTUS if he does not do as your party thinks he should?

"May need to be done". And who do you think should have the power to make this decision to kill the President of the United States when he was elected fair and square?

Sounds as if you need a visit from the Secret Service.

Dennis

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Sep 26, 2020 07:27:42   #
National Park
 
buckwheat wrote:
When hillary called the rest of us a basket of deplorables, I thought it was somewhat clever and was mildly amused. But now I think back to Agnew's description of the left and the media as "Nattering nabobs of negativism, I see that as a great intellectual divide between the violent left and the sophisticated right!


Trump called you disgusting.

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Sep 26, 2020 12:34:41   #
buckwheat Loc: Clarkdale, AZ and Belen NM
 
National Park wrote:
Trump called you disgusting.


How clever!

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