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Sep 22, 2020 14:19:10   #
DrJoeS Loc: Tampa Bay area (FL)
 
I started to try water droplet shots. I shoot on glass above an image from my iPad. I know these need improvement.
Does anybody else shoot these?
Any advice on how to make rounded drops that hold shape for reflection/ refraction?
Thanks.


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Sep 22, 2020 14:23:07   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
Very cool! I have a suggestion for simpler, if you're interested: water beads.

The link to what I purchased from amazon is in this topic:
https://www.uglyhedgehog.com/t-651351-1.html

The refraction and reflection properties are awesome.

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Sep 22, 2020 14:31:09   #
Ourspolair
 
Mostly they are teardrop shaped until they start to flatten out due to acceleration in the atmosphere. Probably more likely to be round in the absence of gravity. I think Linda may have a smart idea (as usual). Stay well and keep on posting.

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Sep 22, 2020 14:58:17   #
DrJoeS Loc: Tampa Bay area (FL)
 
I did not know that you could buy pre-made rounded "drops" Thanks you for your advice.

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Sep 22, 2020 14:59:01   #
DrJoeS Loc: Tampa Bay area (FL)
 
So I need to shoot on the ISS for good drop shapes?

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Sep 22, 2020 15:16:51   #
Linda From Maine Loc: Yakima, Washington
 
DrJoeS wrote:
I did not know that you could buy pre-made rounded "drops" Thanks you for your advice.
Think of them more like marbles, except they're gel and soft. You put them in water to increase their size. Three of the colors I've used so far are transparent; the white was opaque.

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Sep 22, 2020 16:13:37   #
DrJoeS Loc: Tampa Bay area (FL)
 
I ordered 8 oz of the clear ones - $7.

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Sep 23, 2020 08:06:25   #
randave2001 Loc: Richmond
 
A trick I have used in the past is glycerine rather than water. It is clear and holds its shape better than water and is less than $4 for a six ounce bottle at WalMart. That will last a pretty long time. I apply using a water dropper or the applicator on the bottle if one is supplied. Another thing to try is to vary the distance of your glass plate from the background until you find a combination that pleases you. I do like the patterns you have chosen but the focal point you have chosen makes the background overwhelm the drops. Have fun experimenting and post your results.

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Sep 23, 2020 08:11:09   #
DrJoeS Loc: Tampa Bay area (FL)
 
Thanks. I have used glycerin, but I still could not get great drops. More practice needed.

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Sep 23, 2020 08:23:01   #
mizzee Loc: Boston,Ma
 
Very cool! I can only admire.

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Sep 23, 2020 09:03:20   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
Fascinating! I'm resisting getting into that. I don't need more equipment and projects.

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Sep 23, 2020 10:35:10   #
Jaackil Loc: Massachusetts
 
DrJoeS wrote:
I started to try water droplet shots. I shoot on glass above an image from my iPad. I know these need improvement.
Does anybody else shoot these?
Any advice on how to make rounded drops that hold shape for reflection/ refraction?
Thanks.

I really like these images. Nice job.
The problem you are having is gravity. Your surface is not perfectly level which is nearly impossible to achieve. Even if you were to get it perfectly level using lasers the glass itself is not perfectly flat either. Under a microscope you would be able to see variations in the thickness. Humidity and temperature will also effect it. Try glass wax. You can find it in most hardware stores. It is great for cleaning the glass and the water will bead up nicely. You can also try adding some glycerin to the water but it will make it slightly cloudy which will give you a different effect. A drop or two of dish soap will give the drops a rainbow effect. Lastly you can try using a hypodermic needle. You can find blunt tipped needles on eBay usually. The metal is hydrophobic so the water will flow away from it much more easily to form better droplets. If you use a glass or plastic eye dropper the water wants to cling to it so it is harder to get good consistent droplet shapes.
All that said the randomness of the shapes is also interesting. I have found patience is also important but well worth it. I have shot for hours moving the lighting re dropping the water and adjusting everything just to get one shot I really like. Water droplets are not the most cooperative models. I have also never found a single formula that works every time. Every time I have done this it’s all different which is part of the fun
Good Luck.

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Sep 23, 2020 12:40:24   #
harry-j
 
Have you tried applying a glass wax like Rain-X? I'm pretty sure any automotive wax on glass will provide you with the shape retention you're looking for.

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Sep 23, 2020 18:03:57   #
TreborLow
 
Second vote for Rain-X....

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Sep 23, 2020 18:04:58   #
TreborLow
 
Second vote for Rain-X.... Just bought some glycerin, and it was recommended to be only 10% in water. Have not yet checked that one. Anyone have a recommendation?

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