LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America

Read a book ... and stop lying.

slocumeddie Loc: Inside your head, again

Why, thanks for your insight, Marky Marx.....

rwoodvira

Hi curmudgeonhabsfan: I just read your note and perfectly understand your action and wish you well. The US and Canada share the longest border in the world and have been allies in almost every conflict we've been in. I have been to various parts of Canada personally and on business and found Canadians among the best that I have dealt with.

The US is currently dealing with a great deal of ugliness and I am very sorry that some of that has been directed at our friends in the North. Much of the ugliness is because of our current President who seeks o blame rather than solve issues, and to fractionalize our society. That ugliness, often to an extreme, is highly visible in this forum. The diversity in our population in both its people and their respective beliefs has been one of our key strengths. Likewise, the freedom of expression, guaranteed by our Constitution seems to be under threat daily. In this forum, the looting or riots of the very few are interpreted by many here as the actions of all. The extreme views of the few are desired to be inflicted on us all.

We have seen satire and lies posted here as gospel, even when unbiased sources prove them as falsehood. I am 70, I worry for my children and my grandchildren.

I wish you and yours well and to be safe.

DukeTarHeel Loc: NC's "Research Triangle"

Well said

curmudgeonhabsfan Loc: Calgary, Ab

Thank you for your common sense and wishes. I too worry for my kids and grandkids.
Best wishes to you as well.

btbg

I understand the purpose. That does not negate the fact that the U.S. is doing better than much of the world. Do you hear that on the news? No. Do you hear that from the liberals on this site? No. And that is very relevant to the discussion. We have a much greater population than the other nations on that chart and we have a much more diverse country, which fortunately is not federally controlled to the same extent as many of those other countries.

All I'm saying is lets be honest in the discussion. Could we do better on covid? Probably. Is it the president's fault. Absolutely not, because he is not authorized by the Constitution to make national rules concerning the virus.

Oh, by the way another recent post answering my posts claims that the states that are open to business have higher current rates than the states that are locked down. That is not entirely true. States like Wyoming who never shut down at all still have lower infection rates than states that have been locked down since April.

It's about time that we recognize that what works in one area is not what works in other parts of the nation. Areas that are low risk should be allowed to fully reopen. Areas that are higher risk should be more careful and people should be allowed to take personal responsibility for their decisions, both regarding whether to reopen their businesses and whether or not to frequent them.

We are supposed to be the land of the brave and the home of the free. Well, we certainly aren't acting like that now.

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

Holy CRAP!!! Here we are now on page 6 of one Attic member telling us he is leaving because he doesn't like the atmosphere. But rather than to wish him on his way as Conservatives have done in the very nicest and kindest manner possible, the departing member and his Left Wing cohorts have taken this opportunity to bash Conservatives and President Trump.

What should have been one or two pages of, Nice knowing you, sorry to see you go, write if you find work, and so on is not just another happy go lucky Attic topic that may go into 15 or more pages with well worn topics such as the virus, Trump's supposedly non participation, one person telling us the flu of 1918 lasted for, was it 26 months and we are only into the virus for 9 months. Does that mean we can't effect a cure until the virus has also run for at least 26 months. I hate to think that since 1918 the world has not learned something new about finding cures. But of course that is the Liberal mind for you. I guess we have to give the virus as much equal time as we did the flu in 1918. SHEESH!!!

Back to the Curmugeon Leaving Comedy Relief Show,

Dennis

DukeTarHeel Loc: NC's "Research Triangle"

Out of the 20 largest American cities today, these have Republican mayors.
- San Diego, CA
- Jacksonville, FL
- For Worth, TX
- El Paso, TX

However party leadership is NOT the issue. The point is about homelessness and "pooping" in the streets (as posted by "travelwp" earlier in this thread) . Homelessness has been a problem in the larger cities for well over 150 years. (my estimate). My point is that there is homelessness in virtually all large American cities; it is NOT a new problem nor is it the fault of any one party. Of the 20 largest cities, 16 of them currently have Democrats, 4 have Republican mayors. So, review a bit of history using the largest American city, NYC.

Prior to Bill De Blasio, the mayors were Rudi Giuliani (Republican, 1994-2001) and Michael Bloomberg (Republican 2002-2007, Independent 2008-2013). De Blasio is the first Democratic mayor since 2002. Do I think he inherited a problem created by Republicans? NO! I believe large cities have always been a magnet for immigrants (usually impoverished) and that leads to serious social problems such as homelessness and, this has been going on for a very long time.

DukeTarHeel Loc: NC's "Research Triangle"

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BTBG: I agree, "there are a few reasonable people on both sides and they get called names as well even when they don't reciprocate". Just to be fair in my assessment, reasonable posters such as MWalsh, Rose and yourself are breaths of fresh air. (Apologies to anyone who feels that, as a Republican poster, you have been left out.) However, take a look at the amount of posts you find offensive. There certainly are conflicts and some get heated on both sides but, in my opinion, the overwhelming majority of senseless, rude, insipid and illogical comments are made by the many rabid trump supporters here. I will not identify the as I do not need the aggravation but I'm sure they know who I am referencing. Look for yourself and judge the value of many of the comments made here.

As for presidents worthy of respect, it is a short list that would include Kennedy, Regan, Bush 1 (despite the broken promise of "read my lips - no new taxes"). I had morality issues with Clinton BUT he was the last president to have a balanced budget (2001). I had racial issues with Obama. While well intentioned, he almost completely surrounded himself with black advisors. His income redistribution statement was an abomination and yes, I perceived that as a socialism few in this country want. However, in both of these presidencies, I believe the presidents made decisions in the best interest of the country whereas I believe trump's first thought when making a decision is "how can this benefit me", his second is "can I further tarnish Obama's legacy", then and only then will he think about the best interests of our country.

The thing is, I have been a registered independent for decades and am proud of the votes I cast for both Republicans and Democrats. My favorite Republican votes included for governors of Massachusetts - William Weld, Mitt Romney and most recently, Charlie Baker (who I think is one of the best elected officials in the USA). I voted for Reagan, Bush 1 and Bush 2 so I am not a dyed in the wool democrat or liberal.

However, I despise trump for his lying, petty, vain, vengeful retaliation, selfish and immoral behaviors - these are major character flaws are just a few of the reasons. He embraces our enemies and insults our allies. He claims credit for rebuilding an economy but he inherited a recovering economy. He has totally mishandled the Corona virus. He could have led by example; worn a mask, not diminishing the threat not insulted the scientists and not politicized the CDC, he could have led a nationwide set of requirements instead of abdicating his responsibilities. He should not have called it a "hoax", another democratic non-issue, telling people it will be over by Easter etc. Now he's claiming he's created millions of new jobs - what BS! Most of those are jobs employees returning to their furloughed job; they are not NEW jobs but again, he lies and misrepresents the issue so he can claim credit. His ego is going to cause serious harm. He's doing everything to steal the election. He tries to divide the nation, to cast doubt on all the things we believed in and held sacred. He's created doubt where none had previously existed. I could go on but it won't matter. The rabid trumpers will have a field day with their rude comments and gross misrepresentations.

Enough; I'm sure most people stopped reading anyway. Let's just say that I will consider voting republican again where they present a fair and honest candidate who puts the country first and not party. However, any candidate who supports trump is automatically out of the running for my vote.

Take care and stay safe

rwoodvira

btbg - obviously you have only read the material left by the so-called liberals and not those posted by others and myself.

The current state of affairs regarding COVID is largely do to the President's unwillingness to follow pandemic procedures that was established by both the Bush and Obama administrations. The Bush plan is far more readable and states in part in the event of no effective antivirals or vaccines social distancing should be followed including the wearing of masks. Trump minimized the exposures to the public including holding rallies without social distancing or masks allowing more disease to spread. His action to curtail travel was late in coming and did not include US citizens returning from pandemic sites - no quarantining on their return - instead we had images of these people being put in crowded areas.

I do agree that a farewell to our Canadian friend somehow deteriorated to the usual political BS, but I do not believe it was one-sided.

LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America

I thought you were leaving?

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

He just had not started his own post in a while and wanted to be able to say he did that once. He isn't really going anywhere at all.

Dennis

Rose42

There are plenty of us here who value our friendship with our neighbors to the north. The few do not speak for the many and I hope it remains that way.

DukeTarHeel Loc: NC's "Research Triangle"

John_F Loc: Minneapolis, MN

Sooner or later there will be a fact based report from Johns Hopkins University on how the various nations fared covid19-wise.

The President could not be expected to have the answers. Where he failed was in not recognizing the seriousness and not mobilizing Federal resources. And also not appearing as a role model, like not wearing a mask in public.