Trade in my Nikon D850 for a Nikon Z7 (Page 2): Weight is not the factor that you should be considering. Mirrorless camera's are NOT that much lighter than DSLR's. Of course, the D850...

billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont

RonHo wrote:

The D850 has a shudder count of 6015, the Z7 would be lighter and mirror less seems to be the new way to go, comments con or pro.

Weight is not the factor that you should be considering. Mirrorless camera's are NOT that much lighter than DSLR's. Of course, the D850 is one of the big boys. The focusing system in the D850 is still superior to the Z7 for BIF and general sports.
You must also consider if your going to get the adapter for your current DSLR lenses. If you only have one current lens, the decision to go mirrorless may be easier to do.
Here is my take, if your getting excellent results with your current D850, as I do, why worry about the new kid on the block. Nikon is still new to the mirrorless world.
If it were me, I would wait a while, or, you can do what I have done. I have still a few of my Nikon DSLR camera bodies and lenses. But I have made a move into Sony mirrorless. I did this because they have been the pioneer in this field and I believe they have the best full frame camera's on the market today.
So, for now, I am between worlds. Sony for BIF and Nikon for everything else.

mizzee Loc: Boston,Ma

A professional photographer friend of mine did just that and couldn’t be happier. He also gave his Fuji! He raves about the IQ.

ClarkJohnson Loc: Fort Myers, FL and Cohasset, MA

There is no question in my mind that DSLRs with flappy mirrors will eventually become obsolete. However, we are not there yet, snd making a change right now only makes sense if the benefits (weight; WYSIWYG) outweigh the drawbacks (AF; lens selection and cost) for your particular style of shooting. I believe my D500 will be a superior birding camera for quite a while, but I will happily take my Z50 on a trip (when we do trips again).

ksmmike

I have a D850 and doubt I would ever give it up for the next several years. I might look at the latest mirrorless cameras after Nikon releases their version of a pro mirrorless, however I would still keep my D850.

I wouldn't do it for the new technology of a mirrorless system but for the new S line lenses. For now, I think the D850 is superior as an overall camera to the Z7. I would only change if I think the lenses become superior to the F mount lenses. So far, they are getting good reviews and appear to be better glass, but again it would have to be more than a small upgrade.

Once you factor in the weight of the new S line lenses, the weight difference between a D850 and the light weight new G lenses compared to a Z7 and the S line lenses (which overall are a tad heavier than the F mount G lenses) there isn't that much of a difference in weight. Yes, the mirrorless is less in most cases but in my opinion not enough to change to mirrorless UNLESS the S line lenses prove to be superior by a good diffrence to the F lenses.

jonyrot

I do not see much mention of the IBIS that is included with the Z7 and Z6. Does anyone have thoughts to share about this when comparing the Z cameras to DSLRs?

rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona

Wow!!! If they include an Ibis with the Z6 and Z7, that would be the camera to have if one is a bird photographer.
--Bob

jonyrot wrote:

I do not see much mention of the IBIS that is included with the Z7 and Z6. Does anyone have thoughts to share about this when comparing the Z cameras to DSLRs?

Robertl594 Loc: Bloomfield Hills, Michigan and Nantucket

RonHo wrote:

The D850 has a shudder count of 6015, the Z7 would be lighter and mirror less seems to be the new way to go, comments con or pro.

Personally, I would not. I have both. When I go grab my camera, it’s the D850, not the Z7. Probably personal preference and what I’m used to. Maybe it’s what I’m used to. D850 is a magnificent piece of equipment. I don’t mind weight and size, I’m used to lugging big bodies and big lenses.

Maybe wait for next gen Z to see if there is a bigger difference. For me, D850.

rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona

I'm in your camp, Robert. Weight is not a consideration when choosing a camera. This is not intended to denigrate those with physical limitations.

In fact, weight does have a beneficial aspect of cameras.
--Bob

Robertl594 wrote:

Personally, I would not. I have both. When I go grab my camera, it’s the D850, not the Z7. Probably personal preference and what I’m used to. Maybe it’s what I’m used to. D850 is a magnificent piece of equipment. I don’t mind weight and size, I’m used to lugging big bodies and big lenses.

Maybe wait for next gen Z to see if there is a bigger difference. For me, D850.

ltcarizona

I lean to what CO says. Additionally the Z series lenses are some of the finest lenses Nikon has ever made. And while limited in size to other Nikon lenses there are still 20 Z lenses garnering praise to use for every need right now. So the Z system is in no way a step down. And there have been several articles posted on the internet in camera reviews as to the toughness of the Z6 and Z7 which I would expect the Z8 (rumored 60mp) to just as tough or tougher. Nikon has been getting very positive reviews on the initiative they have taken to lead the pack on mirrorless cameras over even Canon. And if you travel the world like I do who wants to carry the weight of the FF D850 or D5 or whatever. Also Nikon has a new series of lenses coming for the Z bodies called the S-series a big step above. Now you can understand with Nikon seeing the future and putting itself at the head of the pack except for maybe Sony why the Z line is no slouch compared to the D line. I am going over from my bulky D810 etc to this as soon as I can. I won't look back neither.

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

RonHo wrote:

The D850 has a shudder count of 6015, the Z7 would be lighter and mirror less seems to be the new way to go, comments con or pro.

I say a major step up on the technology ladder.
A lot has happened in the last 3 years.
Also the new Z glass is pretty amazing and lighter lenses can be made and more compact.
Until then your AFs lenses will be useable.
Go for it, BTW far better video capability than the D850.

ecurb Loc: Metro Chicago Area

RonHo wrote:

The D850 has a shudder count of 6015, the Z7 would be lighter and mirror less seems to be the new way to go, comments con or pro.

Well, if I was able to still be a working photographer, I would add a Z body with FTZ adapter to my other Nikons. It would not be my only body but another tool in my bag. I started shooting professionally in the 1970s and used everything from 20x24 to Minox. Every camera is another tool with its own strengths and weaknesses.

jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY

Sell it outright. Recent sales on eBay -

https://www.ebay.com/sch/i.html?_from=R40&_nkw=nikon+d850&_sacat=0&rt=nc&LH_Sold=1&LH_Complete=1

ksmmike

As of today, if I was purely a landscape shooter, I'd pick the Z7 and the S line lenses all day long. For BIF, sorry but the Z7 doesn't compare with the D850. Until Nikon improves the autofocus on the new line of mirrorless, the D850 and D500 will blow away the Z7 for sports and BIF. For travel, then sure, get a Z6 or 7 and a tele and you're all set. It's why I said previously, I'd add to my D850 with the newer Z camera when it comes out and the S line lenses. I don't want to spend money on a Z7 knowing that better is on the horizon, unless price is a concern and you want a travel camera. Then I'd pick the Z cameras over a D850 or D750.

SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA

Earlier this year I was looking at the D850, but my experience with my Panasonic G9 had already shown me the capabilities of mirrorless and I opted for the Z7 and I couldn’t be happier. It’s an amazing camera. With the FTZ adapter all my F mount glass works flawlessly if maybe a little bit slower to focus. With the firmware update the AF is much improved and not bad if not quite the equal of my D500 for BIF. So far I have one native lens, the 24-70 f/4 and it’s a great lens. Right now I’m eyeballing the 85 f/1.8, but I’m really itching for the longer glass coming next year. I’m guessing the 200-600 might have the dual stepping motor setup and improve the BIF capabilities over using my 200-500 with the adapter. All that being said, if I was looking now I might wait to see what the Z7S brings, although there’s a great deal on the Z7 right now. B&H has them for $2500 with a 32gb XQD card, (although 32gb is too low for that camera. I filled up a 64gb card pretty fast doing focus stacking).

SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA

tdozier3 wrote:

It's only "The New Way To Go" if you follow

Not the only way to go but certainly not a bad way to go.