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Sep 14, 2020 08:38:19   #
CaptainPhoto
 
ctsteps5 wrote:
If you use presets are you really a photographer?


Photography is an ART FROM. You as the photographer create the image the way you see fit. No one else has the right to tell you you are wrong just because you used some presets to help develop the image. It would be like telling an artist you can only use a certain paint brush to paint a painting. You can only use oil paints to pain the painting. You get my point.
As the photographer I will choose what I think is the best way to process my photo. If you don't like it, too bad. Nothing says I have to tell you how I did it. If you like it, enjoy it. If you don't like it, move on.

If I use someone else's preset that I buy is that any different than using a preset I created. The end result is the same.

If you don't like presets, don't use them. It's that simple. All the sliders you use in Lightroom or Photoshop are just a form of a preset any way. So build a bridge and get over it.

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Sep 14, 2020 08:52:51   #
ELNikkor
 
Polin sells his presets, which for some, can save time. For me, it would give too many options that look almost the same.

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Sep 14, 2020 09:06:38   #
garrickw Loc: Wyoming Mn.
 
same here on making your own presets in camera raw saves a lot of time processing

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Sep 14, 2020 09:13:19   #
JohnSwanda Loc: San Francisco
 
The OP isn't just asking about the pros and cons of presets. He won't use them, and he questions whether anyone who does is really a photographer.

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Sep 14, 2020 09:14:54   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
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Sep 14, 2020 09:16:43   #
rmalarz Loc: Tempe, Arizona
 
Generally speaking, this is possibly true. However, there are sub-categories of camera operators and shutter clickers.
--Bob
JohnSwanda wrote:
If you take photographs, you are a photographer, no matter how you process them.

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Sep 14, 2020 09:24:04   #
SteveG Loc: Norh Carolina
 
ctsteps5 wrote:
I dont and wont use presets


I don't know why? But I will!!

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Sep 14, 2020 09:30:12   #
Tomcat5133 Loc: Gladwyne PA
 
ctsteps5 wrote:
If you use presets are you really a photographer?


If you do a lot of PR work or a kind of certain look or approach fixed sets seems to make sense.
I cant imagine not processing all of the shots I take myself. I often pull video off of my 10 bit video
and launder them in PS. Each one needs a special approach they are mostly sporting and running
events.

And I will add what I have said before in this forum the post processing I see today dominates
advertising and art photography. And to me a great many of these visuals are over cooked. The look
is what gets the attention. Mostly I adjust light and darks and put a dash of color in and
I am very careful with sharpening.
I think what is happening is the competition for looks and a winning pic have created a strange
PP look to 80% I see in publishing and art.

Good luck whatever you do if fine do it your way. Enjoy. Tom

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Sep 14, 2020 09:30:14   #
Picture Taker Loc: Michigan Thumb
 
I go by results. I look at a picture and like it or otherwise. I don't ask what camera what settings or what software. I might ask the place it was taken.
The idea of photography is the results(picture) not the BS pop camera etc.

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Sep 14, 2020 09:33:42   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
ctsteps5 wrote:
If you use presets are you really a photographer?


At that point you’re an editor. 😉😉

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Sep 14, 2020 10:08:28   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
ctsteps5 wrote:
I sevthe software on my laptop. Its just me. I feel its a short cut


Just don’t sevthe anything before you’ve had your cofeve.

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Sep 14, 2020 10:15:58   #
47greyfox Loc: on the edge of the Colorado front range
 
I use ON1 for the most part these days, even tho there are things about it that aggravate the hell out of me. That said, I start with "auto ai" for Tone and Color and sometime WB. From there unless I have specific cloning or healing to do, I go immediately to "Effects" and filters, which for me is another word for presets. Then I go to work, if a particular, once adjusted gives me a result that seems pleasing (to me anyway) for almost every image where I use it, I save it with my settings as a new filter name. To me, that's not much different than PS using creating an "action" sequence. As said before, "presets" or whatever you call them are a means to an end. I don't have the need to reinvent the wheel every time I sit in front of the computer unless I have to.

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Sep 14, 2020 10:23:38   #
wapiti Loc: round rock, texas
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
OK, I'll bite: Why? Because you don't understand them? Because you've preset your camera for SOOC results? Because your software's <auto> results are better than the SOOC results? Something else?

BTW: what do you call that thing that created the image file? What do you call the person that released the shutter?



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Sep 14, 2020 10:23:57   #
wapiti Loc: round rock, texas
 
RichardTaylor wrote:
I use what ever tools I have available to achieve the imges I want.



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Sep 14, 2020 10:40:13   #
BobHartung Loc: Bettendorf, IA
 
ctsteps5 wrote:
If you use presets are you really a photographer?


Hmmm..... maybe but only maybe.


The better question is this: "If you use presets to post process your image files, is the final product yours?"

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