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Sep 12, 2020 06:34:00   #
John N Loc: HP14 3QF Stokenchurch, UK
 
Press NO TIP and leave a cash substitute for the staff.

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Sep 12, 2020 07:11:08   #
hippi Loc: Sedalia MO
 
if they paid them a living wage they would not need tips any way I just double the tax for the tip if the service is good maybe a little more if bad service no tip and I can not stand the places that charge a set amount for the tip if your party is bigger than 4 I have seen it as high as 25%

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Sep 12, 2020 07:25:17   #
VietVet Loc: Brooklyn, NY
 
When I go to a restaurant I tip on the service I receive from the staff. Usually 20-25% of the total bill including drinks. If the food sucks it has no effect on my tipping as it’s not the staffs fault but I will let the owner/ chef know. The service would have to be atrocious for me to cut the tip which I find extremely rare.

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Sep 12, 2020 07:26:34   #
SweetPea
 
JohnSwanda wrote:
Most people who work for tips work very hard and don't make that much money, and I don't begrudge them a good tip. These days a 20% tip is considered standard, so you're a little light there to begin with. The difference between the tip with or without tax isn't enough to worry about. Personally, if I felt tipping appropriately was beyond my budget, I would eat out less often.

Totally agree!!
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Sep 12, 2020 08:15:47   #
ad9mac
 
We don't go out to eat very often anymore. But when we do I pay cash almost always.
The few times I charge a meal I always tip in cash. Usually 20% + and do my best to see that the server gets it personally and not the bus person.
All-you-can eat places are notorious for hard working servers and low tipping so I'm always generous at those restaurants. While you normally get your own food, the server is clearing plates, refilling drinks, etc.

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Sep 12, 2020 08:17:35   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
hippi wrote:
if they paid them a living wage they would not need tips any way I just double the tax for the tip if the service is good maybe a little more if bad service no tip and I can not stand the places that charge a set amount for the tip if your party is bigger than 4 I have seen it as high as 25%


Living Wage????
Silly Comment, do not like the pay move on.
No one forced you to take the job, your fault if you took it.

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Sep 12, 2020 08:30:28   #
Brian in Whitby Loc: Whitby, Ontario, Canada
 
I agree with you 100%. Here in Ontario, we pay 13% harminized sales tax. Federal GST + Provincial sales Tax. It is not the extra cost but the principle of paying a tip based on taxes not on goods and services. I just calculate the tip manually based on the sub total 15% is easy, 0.1× the subtotal + half that again. 20% of even easier: 0.1×subtotal×2.
To be honest, I would rather the waiter was paid a decent wage and the cost added as a fixed charge to the cost of the meal. The tip is more like a bribe to get decent service. I have heard the origin of TIP was To Insure Prompt service.
However that does not seem to be the way our culture works so I guess we have to live bribing people to get what every customer should expect as their right, good service. I'm no faulting the wait staff. They work very hard. I blame the restaurants for not paying adequate wages and expecting the customer to make up the difference.
McDonalds and Harvey's for me!

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Sep 12, 2020 08:45:46   #
EdJ0307 Loc: out west someplace
 
On all the receipts I've seen there is a line for the customer to enter the tip so they can use the amount calculated for them or enter their own amount. My method for tips is to calculate 10% of the total (since that's easy to calculate), double it and round up to the next dollar. If the bill is say $38.15, 10% is $3.82, doubled makes it $7.64, rounded to $8.00.

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Sep 12, 2020 09:05:29   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
I make it easy on myself. I take the total, round it up, and double it. $28.66 becomes $30. When I double that, I get $60. I drop the zero, and $6.00 becomes the tip. Rounding up and doubling is fast and easy.

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Sep 12, 2020 09:10:38   #
Fotoserj Loc: St calixte Qc Ca
 
I do believe that server are paid to do just that take your order and serve your meals, that is their basic job description, a pourboire, French term for tip, is some extra for going above and behind their minimun job, like making sure your meal is what you’ve order, have you ever received Frenchfry when you’ve ask for mashed or get your drowned in gravy when you ask for a little gravy, that is what a good server would notice and correct before it reach your table, that is worth of a tip

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Sep 12, 2020 09:13:29   #
nicelifter Loc: erie,pa
 
Brian in Whitby wrote:
I agree with you 100%. Here in Ontario, we pay 13% harminized sales tax. Federal GST + Provincial sales Tax. It is not the extra cost but the principle of paying a tip based on taxes not on goods and services. I just calculate the tip manually based on the sub total 15% is easy, 0.1× the subtotal + half that again. 20% of even easier: 0.1×subtotal×2.
To be honest, I would rather the waiter was paid a decent wage and the cost added as a fixed charge to the cost of the meal. The tip is more like a bribe to get decent service. I have heard the origin of TIP was To Insure Prompt service.
However that does not seem to be the way our culture works so I guess we have to live bribing people to get what every customer should expect as their right, good service. I'm no faulting the wait staff. They work very hard. I blame the restaurants for not paying adequate wages and expecting the customer to make up the difference.
McDonalds and Harvey's for me!
I agree with you 100%. Here in Ontario, we pay 13%... (show quote)


my girlfriends son worked for a place that we liked to eat at .he worked in the feed prep part of the place and he asked for a raise after a yr and they told him they couldnt pay him more .he didnt get any of the tip money even tho he was the person that made the food .well one day we pulled in there to eat and i saw the owners motor home sitting there.i looked the price up and the thing cost over 400 grand .i guess he couldnt afford to pay the help what they were worth ....we stopped going there

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Sep 12, 2020 09:13:53   #
Country Boy Loc: Beckley, WV
 
Tips are an interesting tool for good service. We eat out several times a week normally and tip well but not overly to be obvious. We find that servers make an effort to get us in their section because so many people poorly tip and they work to get tippers. What I find very interesting is that in my area with the COVA-19 shut down, people mostly get to go food from drive through places and we tip them even more than we do when we eat inside because we know the effort and pressure they are under. I know they appreciate it and it is an easy way to help those people a little.

You can use tips to make a difference if you treat customers to meals. Next time, as you are being seated slip your server a $5 bill and tell them that your friend is special, please make sure he leaves happy. That is not the final tip but you will be amazed at the service you will get!

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Sep 12, 2020 09:18:05   #
jaymatt Loc: Alexandria, Indiana
 
Bobbyjohn is correct--tipping on the tax is incorrect, no matter the amount. I never do it. I add a flat amount regardless of the suggestion. Sometimes it’s under, sometimes it’s over. To me, tipping is a scam to begin with. Establishments should pay a decent wage so that tipping could be eliminated.

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Sep 12, 2020 09:30:58   #
JeffR Loc: Rehoboth Beach, Delaware
 
JohnSwanda wrote:
Most people who work for tips work very hard and don't make that much money, and I don't begrudge them a good tip. These days a 20% tip is considered standard, so you're a little light there to begin with. The difference between the tip with or without tax isn't enough to worry about. Personally, if I felt tipping appropriately was beyond my budget, I would eat out less often.



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Sep 12, 2020 09:37:10   #
dbjazz Loc: Long Island, NY
 
How about NO tipping, as in many other countries? Instead, pay these employees a decent living wage.

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