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Sep 11, 2020 11:13:10   #
DavidPine Loc: Fredericksburg, TX
 
Old44 wrote:
Has anyone upgraded from the Nikon D750 to the D780 and if so, is it worth the money?


The D780 is a great camera and a good upgrade in my experience.

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Sep 11, 2020 11:53:57   #
Thomas902 Loc: Washington DC
 
The D780 has some features that I believe may be priceless to me since I own a considerable collection of vintage "Pro" FX zoom optics from 1988 through 2007...

From a previous post: "I'm elated that Nikon has put Canon's dual fine tune feature for zoom optics in it's new D780... Allows zoom optics to be fine-tuned at each end of the focal range.... Seriously looking to rent a D780 and see if I can balance the second version AF 8-200mm f/2.8D one-touch to focus superbly throughout it's entire zoom range! Thank you Nikon, a dream come true if this works... no longer a case of extrapolation based on a single sample point but instead linear regression guarantees multi-point interpolation... but not extrapolation as used in current AF Fine Tune"

I will be renting this body to see if it can match Canon's dual "Fine-Tune" for zoom optics...
I don't have a D750 (only a D3x and D810) and the D810 is actually way too high a resolution for many of my client's needs except for League Soccer where that extreme reach allows me to cover the entire pitch at social media resolution acuity. And I can absolutely see many applications for the tilt screen now Nikon has fixed all the issues that the D750 had...

I totally agree that the price is a tad high... patience is golden... in a couple of years I might actually be able to afford the D780.... lol

Hope this helps...
And thanks all who have sharing their thoughts here...

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Sep 11, 2020 12:12:56   #
billnikon Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
 
User ID wrote:
The 780 is obviously the end of the line. That makes the nearly identical 750 the “almost ultimate” of its line. The only reasonable upgrade path open is the Z cameras. Keeping your current lenses the Z would be mainly upgrading operability. Your pix will look the same.

If you’re OK with the operability of SLRs then the only other upgrade open to you is to change lanes in your current path and consider an 850 ... especially if your lenses are of the so-called “AF-D” genre, cuz your AF depends on SLRs.

Many users are extremely sold on their 850s. As a 750 user I do not find the 850 tempting at all. Upgrading from one dinosaur to another doesn’t make much sense to me, especially when the dino on hand (750) is pretty highly evolved at least in dino terms :-)

So again, the 780 seems the LEAST reasonable upgrade for a 750 user.
The 780 is obviously the end of the line. That mak... (show quote)


Your comment I find troubling. What evidence do you have that the Nikon 780 is the end of the line. Please quote your sources.

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Sep 11, 2020 12:34:00   #
larryepage Loc: North Texas area
 
billnikon wrote:
Your comment I find troubling. What evidence do you have that the Nikon 780 is the end of the line. Please quote your sources.


Horizons here are quite limited, I'm finding. There are vast portions of the photography market who have no interest in the new technology that folks here are drooling over. Too expensive, questionable durability, no perceived benefits. I believe that the manufacturers who drop traditional technologies too quickly are the ones who will be in trouble as they lose the portions of the market that are big enough to really matter, whoever they are.

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Sep 11, 2020 14:47:28   #
CO
 
FiddleMaker wrote:
I wish the D780 did not have the low-pass (AA) filter.


It seems like they will eliminate the AA filter if the sensor has a high enough pixel density. Moire patterns are less likely to occur with sensors that have a high pixel density. The 24 megapixel sensor in the D750 and D780 does not have a high pixel density so they leave the AA filter in.

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Sep 11, 2020 14:51:11   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
b top gun wrote:
Not until the price comes down. I feel Nikon's asking price is too high for the D780. Have seen reviews noting that it is not all Nikon has made it out to be; that if you want the video performance then get a Z6 instead.


Or less money a Z5.

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Sep 11, 2020 15:29:19   #
Strodav Loc: Houston, Tx
 
Moire occurs when a regular pattern, such as fabric lines, dots, ..., exceeds the sampling frequency of the sensor. It can happen with any digital camera and can change just by moving the camera angle or moving in or out.

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Sep 11, 2020 16:32:11   #
FiddleMaker Loc: Merrimac, MA
 
CO wrote:
It seems like they will eliminate the AA filter if the sensor has a high enough pixel density. Moire patterns are less likely to occur with sensors that have a high pixel density. The 24 megapixel sensor in the D750 and D780 does not have a high pixel density so they leave the AA filter in.

CO, thanks for the explanation. I did not know this. In all honesty, I find the D750 is spitting out good sharp images, especially if I use a tripod and a cable release.

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Sep 11, 2020 16:48:15   #
User ID
 
billnikon wrote:
Your comment I find troubling. What evidence do you have that the Nikon 780 is the end of the line. Please quote your sources.
Reeeeeeeeeally ??????
Seeeeriously ?????
ROTFLMFAO

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Sep 11, 2020 17:38:18   #
CO
 
billnikon wrote:
Your comment I find troubling. What evidence do you have that the Nikon 780 is the end of the line. Please quote your sources.


My understanding is that some Nikon DSLR cameras will not be replaced. The D3500, D5600, and D500 will not be updated. I'll bet that over time, more Nikon DSLR cameras will not be updated and will be replaced by mirrorless. It's too bad about the D500. It's a great camera. I would like to have seen a D510.

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Sep 11, 2020 20:39:50   #
ta5567
 
I am very invested in F mount lenses. Frankly. I do not see a Z camera in my future. The 780 has great interest for video use and I will probably get one. For photography I have D850 and D500.

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Sep 11, 2020 21:05:55   #
baron_silverton Loc: Los Angeles, CA
 
Not sure if I understood what you were saying, but the D850 is a significant upgrade from the D810 in many relevant ways: Higher resolution, better AF system, faster card (XQD soon to be CF Express) and there are other differences beyond these huge ones.

I am not saying the D810 is not a great camera - it is. But it is not as good as the D850 which can still rightfully be called the best DSLR ever - it is a jack of all trades and could be argued to be a master of all trades. It probably will remain the best DSLR and not be dethroned of that title unless and until there is a D880 - and even then the difference will likely be mostly advantages in video - although it is rumored to have a 61 MP sensor so I guess resolution will be higher as well.

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Sep 11, 2020 21:12:18   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
FiddleMaker wrote:
I wish the D780 did not have the low-pass (AA) filter.


Why?

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Sep 11, 2020 21:23:38   #
baron_silverton Loc: Los Angeles, CA
 
Old44 wrote:
Has anyone upgraded from the Nikon D750 to the D780 and if so, is it worth the money?


It totally depends on why you would be upgrading to determine if it is worth the money.

If you care about video at all and you don't want to go with the Z system for any reason then it is definitively worth the money, as it is a far superior video camera in every relevant respect. The D750 has terrible video AF and doesn't do 4k whereas for example, the D780 does up to 4k 30FPS at full frame (no crop) and has excellent video AF.

From a purely stills perspective, the D750 is an excellent camera - I shot with one for years. It has excellent IQ and dynamic range - far ahead of its time which is why it is still relevant today 6 years after release.

That said, there are reasons to upgrade (again depending on your use case). For example, the D780 goes 2 stops higher natively in ISO than the D750 - the former being 51,200 and the latter 12,800. Obviously, one should never really use ISO 51,200 unless you must get some shot as opposed to nothing, but the real issue is that at 12,800 the D780 is far superior to the 750 - in fact it is superior for any ISO north of about 3200. This could really mater if you were, for example an event photographer.

The IQ at high ISO is better because the D780 has the Expeed 6 processor which is two generations newer than the D750's Expeed 4, and it has a backside illuminated sensor as opposed to a standard CMOS sensor like the D750. To draw a similar comparison, the Z6 has about 1 stop better ISO performance than the new Z5 and the only difference is that the Z6 has a backside illuminated sensor and the Z5 does not - they both have Expeed 6 processors. So, you can see that the D780 with a BSI sensor and a much more recent processor has several advantages over the D750 in low light, which is saying a lot as the D750 was/is great in low light - especially for its time. Still, as an event photographer every little bit of low light performance matters and the D780 is definitely better in this respect.

Also, the D780 has two SD cards that are UHS II whereas the the D750 has two that are UHS I - the UHS II cards are up to three times faster so that combined with a slightly better buffer means that the D780 can shoot continuously somewhat longer than the D750 - so if you are an action/wildlife photographer then this could be really relevant to you.

If you are using a camera for general all around/walking around type shooting then the D750 is great and you probably do not need to upgrade.

Hope this helps.
-Baron

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Sep 11, 2020 23:43:18   #
pila
 
billnikon wrote:
IMHO, do you like your current images your getting with the D750 ?, if yes, then my answer is NO, you do not need the upgrade, if your not getting decent images with your D750, then I suggest you take some photo classes because the D750 is capable of producing outstanding images.
Good luck and keep on shooting until the end.


I think this response is spot on. Pila

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