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Aug 29, 2020 19:03:57   #
via the lens Loc: Northern California, near Yosemite NP
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
I'm not responding to help you. The OP asked for help by describing their problem, where it will be both more effective and efficient to see their images, rather than your examples, to provide actionable help specific to their camera, lens and shooting situation.


I think you are being a bit "cheeky," as I asked the OP if he/she wanted me to post images and that person, to whom I was replying, said yes. I think my response was between that person and me. But, thanks for your insights.

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Aug 29, 2020 19:08:02   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
via the lens wrote:
I think you are being a bit "cheeky," as I asked the OP if he/she wanted me to post images and that person, to whom I was replying, said yes. I think my response was between that person and me. But, thanks for your insights.


If you feel that's the best way to be helpful and every unquoted reply must be directed at your possibly hijack of the thread, well you're certainly welcome to all your own opinions. As we can see, I have a different problem-solving approach.

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Aug 29, 2020 19:33:01   #
MadMikeOne Loc: So. NJ Shore - a bit west of Atlantic City
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
If you feel that's the best way to be helpful and every unquoted reply must be directed at your possibly hijack of the thread, well you're certainly welcome to all your own opinions. As we can see, I have a different problem-solving approach.


FWIW, it was obvious to me that you were responding to the OP.

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Aug 29, 2020 22:31:07   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
I'm not responding to help you. The OP asked for help by describing their problem, where it will be both more effective and efficient to see their images, rather than someone else's images, to provide actionable feedback specific to their camera, lens and shooting situation.



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Aug 30, 2020 07:13:51   #
Gene51 Loc: Yonkers, NY, now in LSD (LowerSlowerDelaware)
 
SENG wrote:
In trying to shoot a Red-tailed hawk or vulture I can not get the underside of the bird’s colors. The head is focused and wing span ok but again underside is usually dark and lacking detail. Suggestions for adjustments to settings. My shutter is usually around around 1/2000 to 1/2500. I have a 300mm lens


Lighting can be your friend or your enemy. Bright midday sun is probably the worst case. Shooting raw and exposing to minimize highlight blowout is better than trying to do anything with camera-produced jpegs. The following example was shot as raw and processed quickly in Lightroom.

D200, Sigma 50-500, 1/1000, F6.3, 500mm
D200, Sigma 50-500, 1/1000, F6.3, 500mm...
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Aug 30, 2020 08:15:52   #
sergiohm
 
SENG wrote:
In trying to shoot a Red-tailed hawk or vulture I can not get the underside of the bird’s colors. The head is focused and wing span ok but again underside is usually dark and lacking detail. Suggestions for adjustments to settings. My shutter is usually around around 1/2000 to 1/2500. I have a 300mm lens


What time of the day are you trying to shoot? Which camera are you using? What is your aperture, speed and ISO? What is the temperature during the shooting? Is it windy?

You don't need to answer these questions here but you should answer to yourself and plan how to get the picture you want.

I usually go to the place where I'm going to take a picture many times so I can get the right light and atmospheric conditions. Then on the day I set the speed and ISO (speed of 1/2000 is ok but to get the wings you may need to get to 1/4000 and the lower the ISO the better, however you may need a lot of light to lower the ISO - that is why the time of the day is so crucial). I usually let the camera set the aperture, unless I want a particular look (for instance, if I want to blur an uninteresting background, I'll lower the Aperture).

And last but not least, luck! All photographer's need that one! Sometimes even after planning the shot, it doesn't come out totally right, but at other times, the morning light hits the bird at the right angle and voila, you get the amazing picture you were looking for!

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Aug 30, 2020 08:32:22   #
Blair Shaw Jr Loc: Dunnellon,Florida
 
Thomas902 wrote:
"...Handle it in Post processing. Shoot raw..." SOP by Fotoartist

That said you are shooting with a Nikon D500 which doesn't have outstanding dynamic range...
In fact it is the only camera I ever sent back to B&H owing to it's miserable image quality compared to my D7200 and D810. While the D500 has fabulous AF and an exceptional frame rate it's DxO mark Score quickly shows it's not capable of high dynamic range...

https://www.dxomark.com/Cameras/Compare/Side-by-side/Nikon-D500-versus-Nikon-D810___1061_963

I decided on a Nikon D810 instead since it's dynamic range score was a HUGE advantage...
Nikon D500 = 1380 verses Nikon D810 = 2853

No contest...

Hope this helps...
All the best on your journey SENG
"...Handle it in Post processing. Shoot raw..... (show quote)



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Aug 30, 2020 10:02:19   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
SuperflyTNT wrote:
You need to dial up some exposure compensation. Add a stop or two. The bright sky is dominating the scene.



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Aug 30, 2020 10:28:56   #
Nalu Loc: Southern Arizona
 
Expose for the sky plus 2. Better yet early am or evening or bright overcast days. Straight overhead shots are not the best. Birds low in the horizon offer better opportunities. Have fun!

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Aug 30, 2020 10:46:15   #
Canisdirus
 
SENG wrote:
In trying to shoot a Red-tailed hawk or vulture I can not get the underside of the bird’s colors. The head is focused and wing span ok but again underside is usually dark and lacking detail. Suggestions for adjustments to settings. My shutter is usually around around 1/2000 to 1/2500. I have a 300mm lens


You have to keep the sun at your back.



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Aug 30, 2020 12:13:03   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
SENG wrote:
In trying to shoot a Red-tailed hawk or vulture I can not get the underside of the bird’s colors. The head is focused and wing span ok but again underside is usually dark and lacking detail. Suggestions for adjustments to settings. My shutter is usually around around 1/2000 to 1/2500. I have a 300mm lens


When the sun is above your subject, the underside will be what's called "backlit". This will be a problem with any camera to get good detail and it will be dark since it's the shadow side of the subject. Most if no all cameras have problems with this. The only thing you can do is to get up early in the morning or go out late in the evening when the light is better. Light is the most important thing that has to do with photography. If you don't have good light, you will most likely not have a good result. This is summer, and with the sun overhead the light is harsh for most subjects. This is why it's best to do outdoor photos early or late but never when the sun is high overhead.

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Aug 30, 2020 16:01:24   #
Karl's Bird Photography Loc: Oregon
 
Try +2 exposure compensation if the bird has a blue sky background... also depends on where the sun is.

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Aug 30, 2020 16:36:33   #
davidb1879
 
via the lens: Wonderful shots of birds in flight. Davidb1879.

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Aug 30, 2020 18:29:09   #
AnotherBob
 
I take a lot of bird photos, sitting, swimming and flying. Some better than others. For all my experience, I still really appreciate the comments / suggestions made to the member who posting the original request for suggestions. On behalf of those of us who may have similar issues but don't always ask............."Thank you!"

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Aug 30, 2020 19:10:08   #
Ed Broussard
 
Set your camera to +1 compensation and process in post.

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