I think it extends beyond just jpg. Though, admittedly, jpg presents a good deal of issues in itself.
--Bob
Bayou wrote:
Brilliant. This is a little understood flaw of jpeg compression. Colors are smeared all over the image, to varying degrees depending on the subject matter. I first observed this when scanning 8x10 photos (shot on film and printed in a darkroom) of beautiful custom made guitars for a web site. The photos were shot by a pro in a studio and were spectacular. There were three shots, each of a single guitar on a black velvet background. Each guitar was a different color...one a deep red, one a golden color, and one a dark brown.
Scanning these photos altered the black velvet to three different shades, each one picking up color contamination from its guitar, particularly the golden one. A side by side arrangement of the three scans on the website were useless...the blacks looked so bad. I scanned with three different scanners with a variety of settings, but it always happened, until I saved to .tiff instead of .jpeg. Of course I couldn't use the .tiff files on a website so it was a problem that was eventually fixed with tedious post processing to get the blacks to match.
I researched the problem and learned of the .jpeg contamination. Now that I'm aware of it, I see it all the time in photos people post, particularly those with a lot of blue sky, or a lot of green woods. It just dumps those colors all over the place.
It's a .jpeg problem.
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Wow....beautiful series!! #3 image is definitely a wall hanger!!
rmalarz wrote:
Dean,
Here's what I'm seeing in these. The issue is Ambient Color Contamination. To illustrate, I've analyzed two of the photos. In photo 1, the light is affected by the green tint the leaves through which it is being filtered. In the 5th photo, the red/brown of the rocks and bed of the stream have tempered the green a bit, as one can observe. This color contamination affects the presentation of the scene and can reduce the contrasts between the various subjects included therein.
Analyzing the color contamination one can see the predominant hue in each. The first photo shows a pronounced green contamination that affects the entire scene. The 5th image shows that color green contamination is not as pronounced, but still leaning toward green and this is the color that affects the entire scene. The overall effect is that it reduces the local contrasts.
This happens with almost every photograph taken. If one were to photograph a scene with an open sky, blue would be the contaminating color. Reddish colored canyon walls will push the influence toward the red/brown hues.
Accommodating these color contaminations will provide a more true view of the scene. It will also provide a better contrast within the photograph. Along with a bit of burning/dodging and vignetting will subtly draw the viewer to those areas you wish to "feature" as the "star" of the photograph.
--Bob
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Bob,
Thank you for taking the time to analyze two of my photos. I have read what you found. What I donโt understand is specifically how to utilize that information to change how these photos were edited. They were shot in raw, edited in Photoshop Elements 2019 on my desktop, saved as jpegs, then edited in Snapseed on my iPad, including the application of a slight vignette, then posted here. I agree that burning/dodging can be helpful and I didnโt do that with these.
I guess what I am asking is can you take my photos, as posted here, and make visible improvements to post here, along with what you specifically did? Or, can you tell me specifically how you would change the editing to improve the final results so that I can post here?
Thank you for your time.
Dean
Beautiful set and glad you walked down stream to get all the falls, large and small.
deanfl wrote:
...What I donโt understand is specifically how to utilize that information to change how these photos were edited...
Often times I'll desaturate and/or debrighten the greens and yellows in a woodsy (trees and leaves) shot. Or do the same to the blues in a shot with a lot of sky. Sometimes you really see how much cast there was by comparison once you get rid of it.
Thank you for the very nice pictures, looks like a great place to visit!!
Really like the downloads. Excellent set.
Dean, you're quite welcome. The problem with any attempts at processing the posted videos would be akin to trying to change the recipe of a cake that's already been baked.
--Bob
deanfl wrote:
Bob,
Thank you for taking the time to analyze two of my photos. I have read what you found. What I donโt understand is specifically how to utilize that information to change how these photos were edited. They were shot in raw, edited in Photoshop Elements 2019 on my desktop, saved as jpegs, then edited in Snapseed on my iPad, including the application of a slight vignette, then posted here. I agree that burning/dodging can be helpful and I didnโt do that with these.
I guess what I am asking is can you take my photos, as posted here, and make visible improvements to post here, along with what you specifically did? Or, can you tell me specifically how you would change the editing to improve the final results so that I can post here?
Thank you for your time.
Dean
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A myriad of compositional possibilities.
Beautiful photos, Dean. I like the way you did the water. Bob offered the same service to me and it turned out great. I looked at the photo in a new way. Maybe if you both agree they could be posted too. Always looking for ways to improve.
willaim
Loc: Sunny Southern California
Very nice. Like number 3 as it leads the eye to the falls.
Well, I liked them just the way they are. My favorite was #3.
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