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Aug 25, 2020 17:31:32   #
Triple G
 
redlegfrog wrote:
So now we have a test group. Lets check back in 2 -3 weeks and see want the out come for these kids are.

I'm still waiting for the report out of Sturges. A couple hundred thousand of all ages now spread back around America. It should be making headlines everywhere don't ya think?


It’s beginning to already.

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Aug 25, 2020 17:32:46   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
redlegfrog wrote:
So now we have a test group. Lets check back in 2 -3 weeks and see want the out come for these kids are.

I'm still waiting for the report out of Sturges. A couple hundred thousand of all ages now spread back around America. It should be making headlines everywhere don't ya think?

Contact tracing only finds those who were contacted by the ‘patient’ - not backwards. I’m not sure we will ever hear about the results of Sturgis ..... although they are now talking more about the Midwest.

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Aug 25, 2020 18:26:10   #
redlegfrog
 
rehess wrote:
Contact tracing only finds those who were contacted by the ‘patient’ - not backwards. I’m not sure we will ever hear about the results of Sturgis ..... although they are now talking more about the Midwest.


The lefties in the media love to scare us with stories, especially the "I told you so stories". If they are not making a big deal out of it, it's because there is nothing there. Nothing happened and they will never tell you that.

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Aug 25, 2020 19:46:34   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
rehess wrote:
Yes, and they do not think logically, at least not as we see it.

I learned that my first year of college teaching. After complaining all morning about having to come to college in a snowfall - as soon as classes were canceled, the {mostly 'off campus'} upper-class computer majors {we did not have very many} piled into a car - and drove to the computer store to buy the latest game! {then returned to campus and used a lab computer to play it}.


LOL!

See article, "UNC Has a Clusterf**k on its hands" here:

https://www.outkick.com/the-daily-tar-heel-editorial-board-lets-f-bomb-headline-fly/

I can't blame them, as I would have written the same headline. They should never have expected students to be responsible and not spread the virus. Sitting around in one space and breathing recirculated air is a petri dish of opportunities for viruses.

We reacted exactly the same way at Davidson College to crisis situations in the mid 1970s. Sometimes college administrators are complete boneheads. They deserve the public flogging when lives are at stake.

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Aug 25, 2020 21:09:37   #
robertjerl Loc: Corona, California
 
burkphoto wrote:
LOL!

See article, "UNC Has a Clusterf**k on its hands" here:

https://www.outkick.com/the-daily-tar-heel-editorial-board-lets-f-bomb-headline-fly/

I can't blame them, as I would have written the same headline. They should never have expected students to be responsible and not spread the virus. Sitting around in one space and breathing recirculated air is a petri dish of opportunities for viruses.

We reacted exactly the same way at Davidson College to crisis situations in the mid 1970s. Sometimes college administrators are complete boneheads. They deserve the public flogging when lives are at stake.
LOL! br br See article, "UNC Has a Clusterf*... (show quote)


Yes, among the classroom teachers we divided admin into three groups:
1. Those with a natural talent and bent to admin (a minority) they were the ones who kept things going on a daily basis.
2. Those who more or less got pushed into it because they were so good and some emergency came up and then the district kept them in admin but they would rather be doing something else like TEACH. (a small minority but the ones who really got things done and solved problems)
3. Those who got into admin to get away from the classroom and students because they couldn't hack it - the majority of admin. They usually busied themselves with paperwork while their secretaries etc actually did the work and ran the place.

If you lucked out and had a school by some miracle get a majority of #1 & 2 the place really hummed, got an awesome reputation, turned out students with high scores and in general people at other schools thought they walked on water. I was lucky enough to be at three different schools that fit that category for at least part of the time I was there. I worked with two guys from #2. One was an assistant principal who was so good the district used him as a one man administrative SWAT Team. As soon as he got one disaster fixed they transferred him to fix another. He told me he never expected to make principal because he didn't do "bureaucrat". They call a meeting and he missed it because he was "doing something important" and he picked great secretaries who handled all his paper work and he just signed it.
The other guy I worked with actually was part of the incidents that became the movie "Stand and Deliver". He was one of the admin who pushed for and backed up Jamie Escalante. He took a leave to get his PhD and when he came back people downtown pushed him into a dead end job because they didn't like him. But the same reporter who made him and Jamie known in the first place found out and dropped hints of what he could do to the district big shots with a few articles. The man's job suddenly had real power and in effect he supervised the one (wo)man SWAT team types to fix big problems in the district. I worked with both of those guys at the same Jr High during the middle part of my career. Then I ended my career at the high school where the second guy backed up Escalante.

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Aug 26, 2020 06:10:40   #
exakta56 Loc: Orford,New Hampshire
 
Sturgis !!!! Want to buy a Harley really cheap? Just wait a few more weeks until the virus kicks in.

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Aug 26, 2020 21:28:22   #
burkphoto Loc: High Point, NC
 
robertjerl wrote:
Yes, among the classroom teachers we divided admin into three groups:
1. Those with a natural talent and bent to admin (a minority) they were the ones who kept things going on a daily basis.
2. Those who more or less got pushed into it because they were so good and some emergency came up and then the district kept them in admin but they would rather be doing something else like TEACH. (a small minority but the ones who really got things done and solved problems)
3. Those who got into admin to get away from the classroom and students because they couldn't hack it - the majority of admin. They usually busied themselves with paperwork while their secretaries etc actually did the work and ran the place.

If you lucked out and had a school by some miracle get a majority of #1 & 2 the place really hummed, got an awesome reputation, turned out students with high scores and in general people at other schools thought they walked on water. I was lucky enough to be at three different schools that fit that category for at least part of the time I was there. I worked with two guys from #2. One was an assistant principal who was so good the district used him as a one man administrative SWAT Team. As soon as he got one disaster fixed they transferred him to fix another. He told me he never expected to make principal because he didn't do "bureaucrat". They call a meeting and he missed it because he was "doing something important" and he picked great secretaries who handled all his paper work and he just signed it.
The other guy I worked with actually was part of the incidents that became the movie "Stand and Deliver". He was one of the admin who pushed for and backed up Jamie Escalante. He took a leave to get his PhD and when he came back people downtown pushed him into a dead end job because they didn't like him. But the same reporter who made him and Jamie known in the first place found out and dropped hints of what he could do to the district big shots with a few articles. The man's job suddenly had real power and in effect he supervised the one (wo)man SWAT team types to fix big problems in the district. I worked with both of those guys at the same Jr High during the middle part of my career. Then I ended my career at the high school where the second guy backed up Escalante.
Yes, among the classroom teachers we divided admin... (show quote)


Wow. Great story! The same pattern occurs in business and industry! I was a typical #2... The brass called me when they needed something big fixed or created, and their Director or Production Manager was a bozo. I wasn't afraid of anything. At one point, I worked for our President handling special projects, all of which were critical but easy for anyone who paid attention to what was really happening. Our lab was full of placeholders who "just showed up" and did what someone told them to do (or they just sat there).

As a student in high school, early 1970s, I was a bit of a deviant... I wrote for the school paper and was managing editor and photographer for it. Our staff was very good at spotting hypocrisy and stupidity and gently calling it out. More than once, we had to enlist the power of the local daily newspaper to dis-embargo an edition by sneaking them the story and scattering the roaches. Our principal was a PhD who often acted like a whining, wimpy moron. His staff were complicit in his CYA efforts to hide his incompetency. Our advisor quit after one semester with us... She had a nervous breakdown. Principal threatened to fire her one too many times.

So... I applaud the kids at UNC's campus paper. NPR did a story on them this week. They will be awesome at whatever they do.

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Sep 2, 2020 17:13:35   #
Tommy II Loc: Northern Illinois
 
Duh!!!

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Sep 2, 2020 19:30:23   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
exakta56 wrote:
Sturgis !!!! Want to buy a Harley really cheap? Just wait a few more weeks until the virus kicks in.


NBC Nightly News had a story about the first death from Sturgis. They don't carry any news about Covid being spread from the riots, though.

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