srt101fan

redlegfrog, I like to look at both sides of an issue before I draw conclusions.

Like rehess, I don't want to politicize this and drag it into the attic. But your linked article is a difficult one for me to take seriously. One look at the author's comments on other subjects, repudiated by the AFA, raises a serious credibility issue. In furtherance of my education, though, I do plan to look at some of his references.

jayluber Loc: Phoenix, AZ

Rehess: "Yes, hospital usage and related measures are slightly higher than they were back on April 1, but activity is now very close to what it was on January 2."

Is not - At least not here. And according your argument that the lock down was effective, now that all those things were achieved it should not be needed any more.

Patients trust the doctors - not the governors, mayors and media
Re-think how absurd the lock down is/was.
Gave time for restaurants to close permanently or open to lose money.
It gave churches opportunity to sue the states because they couldn't hold services but pot shops and CERTAIN political protests could continue.

As I observe the conversations here it's just the same as in our nation - people talking at each other - I'm right - you're wrong - My facts are true - yours are not. That's a lie - this is the truth.

I guess it just depends on which network you get your news from.

I've changed my mind several times and on several different things Covid related in the last couple of months based on real science and studies. Every one else seems to be entrenched.

Peace to all - please keep healthy.

And just keep repeating - It's only a movie.......

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

We needed time to make those arrangements, and that is exactly what the 'lock-down' bought for us.
I do not see any "absurdity" at all in this.

This state does not have pot shops, open or closed.

Both the federal government and state government have made funds available to help the restaurants - I am not aware of any restaurant that have closed around here; every one that I am aware of kept open during the 'lock-down' by providing carry-out or drive-thru service.


Which of the following are you referring to when you talk about "CERTAIN political protests"??

1. a few masked meetings held outdoors by people who kept their distance from each other - and a few virtual meetings - both sponsored by "Black Lives Matters"; these all follow all our rules

2. unmasked demonstrations in the next county East of here by unlabeled conservatives protesting masking rules; definitely not following any rules.


My information comes from observing local conditions, the Internet, and from state-provided statistics, not as a result of any network reporting on these conditions.

The Governor held Monday-Wednesday-Friday virtual press conferences during stages 1-2-3-4 of the 'lock-down' and every Wednesday since then; the local NBC-affiliate TV station has carried the press conferences live, and they can also be seen via the web. I am sure he has gained trust from it, but he is doing his job. He was Mike Pence's lieutenant / running-mate at one time, incidentally.


Stay healthy yourself!

Scruples Loc: Brooklyn, New York

First off, I refer to the CDC as Crazy Doctors In Charge. My daughter and my son are both in college now. My daughter is learning Music Education. The last six months were difficult because she had to learn her 9th and 10th musical instrument on line. I am nervous that she is at school. She practices social distancing but wears a mask. I am prepared to pick her up from school at a moments notice. My son will be defending his PhD thesis. Don’t ask me what it’s about, it has something to do with engineering physics I think. He too practices distancing and masking. This pandemic has changed the landscape of everything we once knew.

Scruples Loc: Brooklyn, New York

Both my wife and I work in hospitals. Everyone is sick of the news because that is all we hear. But I can tell you, this is far from laughable. What is hysterical is the way our politicians act, behave and say.

exakta56 Loc: Orford,New Hampshire

Thank you for your serious and measured report.

redlegfrog

"redlegfrog, I like to look at both sides of an issue before I draw conclusions."

It seems that there are very few folks on this site who will do just that. They would rather argue and fight than perhaps learn something useful.
Is the AFA the final word on anything? of course not. Just another bit of information to add to the pile while we sort things out.
The world I grew up in trained me to gather as much info as possible before we made our decision.
some times you played devils advocate. Sometimes you ended up 180 degrees from where you started but the goal was to get the job done right with the least amount of time and money spent. That all seems to be lost in the world we live in today.

srt101fan, thank you for your input. I hope others will think about what you said and do a little more studying and a little attacking.

PH CIB

The Government Response both Parties to the Pandemic has been mostly a Failure, now We are being set up again whether intentionally or unintentionally for the Perfect Storm, Labor Day Weekend, Schools reopening for In Person Classroom Instruction, the Flu Season and Covid.... 170,000 Dead and Counting....Personally I would like to fire Everyone in Charge and Start Over....

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

Local news is now saying that 5 football players have tested positive for Covid and isolated, and 6 others have been placed in quarantine. Resuming practice will depend on medical advice after another round of tests of the team tomorrow.

The campus as a whole is now reporting 300 cases.

robertjerl Loc: Corona, California

Article about info from WHO on a mutated strain of Covid - more contagious, less deadly. https://www.foxnews.com/health/mutated-form-coronavirus-more-contagious-less-deadly-experts

Yes for those of you who get the vapers at the mention of Fox News I got it from their web page - but the information came from WHO.

If you don't like Fox then take your pick here: https://www.google.com/search?q=new+mutation+of+coronavirus+is+more+infectious&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS912US912&oq=new+mutation+of+covid+&aqs=chrome.3.0j69i57j0l2.15205j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC

Let me just finish this thread by noting that the other two largest members of the NC university system either did not learn the lesson from the Univ. of NC in Chapel Hill or did not learn it in time. NC State in Raleigh reopened with “normal” classes, but had to go to online only within a week as the school reports 270 students and 41 employees have tested positive and 892 people are in isolation. Unlike UNC, which closed their dorms, NC state is allowing the dorms to stay open (until that proves unworkable too), presenting the opportunity for those remaining 29,000 students not yet in quarantine to continue to spread the virus through the community if they are asymptomatic and contagious. Also East Carolina University in Greenville, has now also gone to online only as clusters have multiplied across campus in a manner that was apparently unexpected by those in charge of these schools. Institutions of higher learning indeed. The same phenomena is occurring across the country as school after school loses again after a week or two of this failed experiment - Notre Dame comes to mind.

Of course the damage has been done and you can’t put the genie back in the bottle now. At all of these universities a percentage of the students live off campus and those remaining in the dorms visit every store in the surrounding community. In each of the counties where these schools are located, cases and hospitalization, which had been leveling off or decreasing since June are now spiking again back to similar numbers from the peak.

What were they thinking? (or were they thinking at all?)

robertjerl Loc: Corona, California

Again, if they closed in person classes within a week those people got infected at least a week before classes started.
What they should have done was test everyone on week one without holding classes, do on-line for two weeks with testing for everyone again at the end of the two weeks (isolation, etc during those two weeks) and then open classes only with people who did not test positive during that two week period. Then enforce distancing, masks, gloves as needed, sanitation etc. And periodic testing until they get zero positives for a month or so.

DarthMicrowave

This post makes sense...I assume it'll be ignored.

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

A problem is that the university has limited power - almost none off campus - and off campus is where student’s lack of self-discipline tends to become a problem.

robertjerl Loc: Corona, California

What Post?

Oh, that post, that was me, wasn't it?