don26812 wrote:
Well, this thread has gone off on a tangent relative to my original question. :-)
That in itself provides the answer.
Actually, this thread has stayed on the tangent of the original question asking for feedback about the original 7D.
You tried to take it another direction by asking if there would be a 7D Mark III.
Is it any surprise that you didn't see much response? To get your question seen it would have been better to start a new thread, rather than hijacking someone else's thread.
All that said...
Canon has tried to market the 90D as replacement for both 80D and 7D Mark II. Both the older models are still in stock many places and are currently being offered at a discount. Brand new 80D are $100 off ($999)... while 7D Mark II are $250 off ($1399). Comparatively, 90D aren't discounted ($1199). All prices are for body only from B&H Photo, an authorized Canon dealer.
Is Canon discounting the older models to clear the shelves, or is this just a reaction to the slowed photo market and current economic uncertainties?
Personally I hope Canon will produce a 7D Mark III. I don't consider the 90D a very direct replacement for it.
7D-series cameras have been the most pro-oriented APS-C models Canon has produced. They are sort of like scaled down 1D/1DX-series cameras.
- With one exception, 7D-series have been the only Canon other than 1D/1DX-series to use dual processors running in parallel AND to have a discrete chip dedicated to running the AF system. (The exception is 5DS/5DS-R, which have dual processors to handle very large image files, but do not use a discrete AF chip.)
- 7D Mark II uses a unique, 65-point AF system that in most ways is equal to or better than the 45-point AF system in the 90D. With certain lenses, 90D has more f/8 capable AF points. And it has a superior Live View AF system. But for sports/wildlife the viewfinder AF system of the older 7DII is generally superior. It's viewfinder is also slight larger (1.0X versus 0.95X, if memory serves).
- 7DII is better built... more metal exterior panels, higher durability rating (200,000 shutter actuations versus 120K rating for 90D), probably better sealed for dust/weather resistance.
- 7DII has dual memory card slots, 90D only has a single one.
- 7DII BG-E16 vertical battery grip is superior to the BG-E14 that the 90D gets as a hand-me-down from 80D and 70D. The 7DII's grip has a more complete set of controls. They include a secondary joystick and an AF pattern toggle switch. Although a joystick has been added to the 90D camera body (a good thing!), 70D and 80D didn't have either of those on the body and so the battery grip designed for them doesn't have them either.
- 7DII can't do 4K video and 90D has an articulated Touchscreen LCD, which the 7DII lacks. One might argue those are more "consumer" items than "pro" (along with WiFi, GPS and some other geegaws).
While I certainly would like to see Canon produce a 7D Mark III... I'm not very hopeful. I'm not sure the market supports it at present. Camera sales have really slumped the last couple years. Canon has done well enough (outselling the next three manufacturers combined), but still has seen a significant drop in sales. The rare bright spots are in mirrorless cameras (putting aside whether or not those are "better" or the right or wrong choice for some people's uses).
Canon has just recently submitted two cameras for certification... though we don't know much about them. They used a "DS" prefix in their coding, which suggests either DSLR or full frame mirrorless. In the past they've used that designation with EOS DSLRs and R-series... but a "PC" prefix for M-series (APS-C mirrorless) and Powershot (non-interchangeable lens digitals... "point n shoots" to "bridge"). These will possibly (probably?) be announced before the end of the year. Place your bets now... a high MP R-series (75 to 83MP?.... Aside from the 7DII (which already has had a year longer market life than it's predecessor), the oldest APS-C DSLR is the most entry-level Rebel T7/2000D (aka 1500D in Asia). Those models are updated fairly often, though the last time little change was made (mostly just a newer sensor). The other current APS-C Canon models, aside from 7DII, aren't that old. Third possibility is a full frame DSLR, but Canon has said "no more 5D-series and 1DXIII is fresh out of the gate. That leaves only the 6DII as a possibility... but that model is only three years old.
Maybe one of the new cameras is a 7D Mark III.... wouldn't that be cool! The only problem, to come to market by the end of this year it would have been in development when the 90D was intro'd a year ago, at which time Canon stated that camera was the replacement for both 80D and 7DII.
Whoops! Looks like I'm even guiltier about hijacking this thread!