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Aug 18, 2020 18:50:30   #
rfmaude41 Loc: Lancaster, Texas (DFW area)
 
jerryc41 wrote:
I have a bunch of small LED flashlights that use three AAA batteries in a holder that gets inserted into the body. They cost a little over a dollar a piece from Amazon.

I did a load of laundry yesterday, and when I opened the lid of the washer, I saw a light! I had left one of those little flashlights in a pocket, and the washing machine turned it on. It went through the 43 minute cycle, and it still works. I took it apart to dry it out, and my cheap little light is bright and healthy. Surprising, especially with the electronics of the LED.
I have a bunch of small LED flashlights that use t... (show quote)


Bet it's brighter, now that the lens has been cleaned, LoL

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Aug 18, 2020 19:34:39   #
hcmcdole
 
Simple test for brightness. A tape measure, flashlights, and a Lux meter on the phone.

basic ensemble
basic ensemble...

one of the longer flashlights
one of the longer flashlights...

Energizer head lamp
Energizer head lamp...

Rayovac
Rayovac...

the one cell mini LED light
the one cell mini LED light...

the 3 cell big Maglite
the 3 cell big Maglite...

the mini maglite - disappointed with reading
the mini maglite - disappointed with reading...

Neweer underwater light
Neweer underwater light...

The underwater light looks brightest to me
The underwater light looks brightest to me...

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Aug 18, 2020 19:41:41   #
jpgto Loc: North East Tennessee
 
Well made....

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Aug 19, 2020 04:12:43   #
Abo
 
hcmcdole wrote:
Simple test for brightness. A tape measure, flashlights, and a Lux meter on the phone.


But the spread of the beams exceed the width of the phone.

Any given output of light will appear less to the phone
if the spread of the beam is wider.

If you have a flashlight that focuses the beam, focus the beam
to a spot, and your phone app will tell you it's brighter,
than if you focus the beam to a "flood light" ie wide angle...
even though the light output is the same.

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Aug 19, 2020 05:55:25   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
Quite enlightening.

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Aug 19, 2020 05:59:17   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
bobmcculloch wrote:
I have several, free ones from Harbor Freight and Canon , handy item!


Those magnet LED's lights from HF are throughout our house so one is always close by in a peer outage.

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Aug 19, 2020 07:57:26   #
jerryc41 Loc: Catskill Mts of NY
 
chrissybabe wrote:
As I said earlier most small LED torches fail because of the lack of a conductor through the screw thread where you change the battery (there are other failure modes too but I have found this is the predominant one). I'll talk about them below. To fix the screw thread point I have found the easiest way is to scrape the anodising off the flat part of the ends of the threaded section, then carefully run a steel brush around the threads themselves. The idea is to try and remove as much of the anodised layer as possible. You don't need much to come off as long as you have matching points since this is one of the electrical paths between the switch end and the LED. Then I add some deoxit to the threads. This is usually a reasonably good fix.
Another failure point can be where the bit threads into the end where the switch is - sometimes you need to reposition this to make contact. A bit fiddly though. And the last point is where the body joins the LED carrier pcb. Sometimes this is just a blob of solder and it doesn't made a good connection here. I dismantle if possible and increase the size of the solder blob a wee bit. Deoxit this also.
I have had switch failures but rare. Also had the odd failure of the LED/pcb also rare.
The issue is basically very poor design and manufacture and shouldn't happen. Probably why these torches are so cheap. You think that perhaps 50c extra spent (and that is all it would take) would be well worth it and you would be quite happy to pay the extra as well for a working torch. Unfortunately a Chinese manufacturer doesn't think like that so a few cents saved makes him more money since we keep on buying the things. They also think that if their torch is 10c dearer to buy compared with a competitor that he won't make any sales because you will always buy the cheapest. Do a google search on 'tofu buildings' if you want to see an eye opener.
Generally 'brand name' torches will be dearer and much more reliable.
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Thanks for this info. I've been very happy with the cheap three-battery lights. I have them all over the house. A couple failed because of corrosion on the contacts of the battery holder. Once I cleaned them, they were back in action. It's the fancier single-battery lights that have been unreliable. I like the three light levels and the adjustable beam, but if they don't work, those features don't matter.

I read reviews on Amazon before I buy, and if the one-star reviews are over 15%, I keep looking. I also read the reviews to see why people gave them one star. Sometimes, it was the wrong color, or the box was damaged, or some other irrelevant reason. Unfortunately, I'm not allowed to post on Amazon any more. I was banned for violating their policies, but they can't expand on that. I had hundreds of reviews on Amazon, and they were all removed. Each one was reviewed before it was posted, so I don't know what they think I did wrong.

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Aug 19, 2020 09:42:28   #
Abo
 
jerryc41 wrote:
Thanks for this info. I've been very happy with the cheap three-battery lights. I have them all over the house. A couple failed because of corrosion on the contacts of the battery holder. Once I cleaned them, they were back in action. It's the fancier single-battery lights that have been unreliable. I like the three light levels and the adjustable beam, but if they don't work, those features don't matter.

I read reviews on Amazon before I buy, and if the one-star reviews are over 15%, I keep looking. I also read the reviews to see why people gave them one star. Sometimes, it was the wrong color, or the box was damaged, or some other irrelevant reason. Unfortunately, I'm not allowed to post on Amazon any more. I was banned for violating their policies, but they can't expand on that. I had hundreds of reviews on Amazon, and they were all removed. Each one was reviewed before it was posted, so I don't know what they think I did wrong.
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You were right... that is what was wrong Jerry.

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Aug 19, 2020 16:15:31   #
chrissybabe Loc: New Zealand
 
jerryc41 wrote:
It's the fancier single-battery lights that have been unreliable. I like the three light levels and the adjustable beam, but if they don't work, those features don't matter.

Unfortunately, I'm not allowed to post on Amazon any more. I was banned for violating their policies, but they can't expand on that. I had hundreds of reviews on Amazon, and they were all removed. Each one was reviewed before it was posted, so I don't know what they think I did wrong.

Funnily enough it is also the single battery torches that have given me the most trouble.

I also get banned the odd time. Not on Amazon since I find then to be unproductive and a lot of them too full of crap. Too many reviews that just miss the point. And the worst issue is they ban you and don't tell you why so you cannot alter your behaviour for the future. So I have to guess. And my best guess is it was because I told the truth. For example it is now a known FACT that the Chinese manufacturers of lithium batteries almost ALWAYS inflate the capacity of the battery. eg a 2500mAh cell becomes 5000mAh or even 9000mAh. Twice now I even found they had rewrapped the cell with a higher rated wrapper (didn't even bother removing the old wrapper first). They don't think anybody will bother to actually test the claimed output (I always do) and when I do and find the batteries are not as claimed I review them that way. Then I get banned. This tells you things about the manufacturer AND the seller. It is dishonesty at a very basic level by both parties. Not helped by the fact that a lot of sellers actually have no idea what they are selling (and don't seem to care either). I sometimes feel it is my duty to point out that the sellers must know what is going on but do nothing to try and fix it. So perhaps I might cast a little doubt on the sellers ethics as well - they don't seem to like this at all.

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