What were they thinking? (Page 6): 👍👍 Agree!

TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC

OhD wrote:

The virus is utterly apolitical. Humans with political biases that make them unwilling to accept facts of Nature are the greatest impediment to coping with the virus.

👍👍 Agree!

fantom Loc: Colorado

sr71 wrote:

You go first

Fine reply but the kid you are replying to will never get it.

Dannj

redlegfrog wrote:

"Only when there's a possibility" Could you define those possibilities please!

Sure, if people are known to have been exposed to the virus. Maybe they live in an area with a lot of cases, attended an event that had a lot of confirmed cases. A college campus can be a breeding ground for infection, too many “not me” attitudes.

PhotogHobbyist Loc: Bradford, PA

TriX wrote:

Another failed experiment: br br “The University ... (show quote)

With tongue firmly placed in cheek and dripping with satire, don't you know this whole pandemic is a hoax and not real? Everything has been faked.

And now seriously, that is what about half of the country is saying.

Also, hope this does not get this sent to the attic.

srt101fan

jayluber wrote:

Actually - there are several.

References, please....

tomad Loc: North Carolina

fantom wrote:

Not surprised. I've never found educators to be the sharpest pencils in the drawer.

If you can't do, teach; if you can't teach, teach teachers...

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

Dannj wrote:

Sure, if people are known to have been exposed to the virus. Maybe they live in an area with a lot of cases, attended an event that had a lot of confirmed cases. A college campus can be a breeding ground for infection, too many “not me” attitudes.

The real problem is that random testing in Indiana showed that 40% of infected people were unaware that they were infected.

FrankR Loc: NYC

Horatio wrote:

LOL!!! I am just so sick and tired of this entire mess. It seems that there is no one willing to give us honest and accurate information.

The scientists are, to the best of their ability. It’s everybody else, the self proclaimed experts and those who believe them, causing the problems.

fetzler Loc: North West PA

rehess wrote:

Real world experience shows that masks work. Period.

In addition to the Missouri beauty shop example, here in Indiana, neighboring Elkhart county had less infection than we did in March. Our county leaders made wearing masks 'mandatory' but Elkhart was rebellious - with unmasked demonstrations - and now Elkhart has many more infections than we do, even though they are somewhat smaller.

Below is an example of social distancing in Sweden from earlier this summer. New Mexico shows just how effective masks are in preventing COVID cases. I hope you will someday rid yourself of fear and start thinking.

Social distancing in Sweden
Social distancing in Sweden...

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Effect of Mandatory Mask Rules on COVID in NM

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TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC

fetzler wrote:

Below is an example of social distancing in Sweden from earlier this summer. New Mexico shows just how effective masks are in preventing COVID cases. I hope you will someday rid yourself of fear and start thinking.

As long as we’re cheery picking data (1 state out of 50), let’s compare South Korea to the US: ~ 1/6 the population, but 15,000 cases and 306 deaths compared to 2M cases and 170,000 deaths in the US. Implemented testing, contact tracing and masks early on. That is a national disgrace for the US.

robertjerl Loc: Corona, California

Bloke wrote:

I am a school bus driver, and the school district here is planning on opening in a couple of weeks. There is no way that the younger kids on the bus will wear masks - we cannot even get them to stay in their seats! In order to 'socially distance', we could only get about 10 students on a bus, but our elementary runs mostly carry upwards of 60...

As an older person, in several risk categories, I am not keen this situation at all...

I too am 74 with diabetes and asthma so in high risk, I am retired and my wife who is a retired Surgical RN/OR Charge Nurse doesn't want me out (7 times-5 to the doctor since Feb) but when I complained about the cloth masks - they get damp from my breath etc she told me to wear the industrial painter's mask I bought for a remodeling project some years ago. Well it was falling apart from old age so I went on line and ordered a new one made by 3M. Half face coverage (you can get them with builtin eye/face shield) and bayonet mount filter cartridges with filters rated at P100 - 100 vs 95 for the standard medical mask and the P means the filter material in the cartridge is resistant to solvents and corrosives. It is also easier to breath in since it, like a military gas mask, is designed for people who are working hard. The model I got is for industrial or medical lab conditions. My Podiatrist took one look at it last week and said he wished the hospital provided them with that type of mask. You can find them, and the filter cartridges on Amazon and Ebay. But shop around because some people charge like the ones they have are gold plated.
Here is the review site where I learned about masks: https://www.nytimes.com/wirecutter/reviews/best-respirator-mask/
I ended up with the model 7503 which doesn't have the Quick Latch feature - that one I couldn't find in a size large but it uses the same filter cartridges as the model they picked. And since I got mine the prices seem to have settled down a lot. The filters are good for 8 hours in a corrosive atmosphere and up to six months or until clogged with dust for general everyday use.

Oh, the reason it is easier to breath in is it has an exhale valve, which some places don't allow or want - well the valve is in a housing and a piece of filter material can be taped over it to filter outgoing air.

robertjerl Loc: Corona, California

alberio wrote:

"As for educators, they are some of the sharpest tools in the shed. The ones we need to be concerned about is legislators. They aren’t the sharpest tools I have found".

Remember the legislators are the product of the educators. Who's failing us now?

As a retired high school teacher I found that any former students I meet who are in politics/bureaucracy are not usually among my former best and brightest students. Those that I run into who were my best and brightest are usually in some occupation that demands brains and skills. They are actually doing something as opposed to telling everyone else what to do.

Dannj

rehess wrote:

The real problem is that random testing in Indiana showed that 40% of infected people were unaware that they were infected.

Sure, that’s a problem and now those people found out they were asymptotic and can take precautions against spreading the virus. That’s what testing is for.

robertjerl Loc: Corona, California

fetzler wrote:

It should be noted that college age students have ... (show quote)

College age students are also at less risk of being afflicted with "common sense", esp when it comes to taking precaustions to protect themselves and those around them from disease and "accidents". After all, just like my buddies in the Army in the mid 60's, they believe they are 10 feet tall and bullet(virus) proof. We were wrong and so are they.

robertjerl Loc: Corona, California

IDguy wrote:

Just till we get an effective vaccine.

The vast majority of virus have no effective vaccine.

And virus mutate, the ones that mutant to "more deadly" kill their hosts before they are passed on and they die with the host. Those that mutant to "less deadly" the hosts live and pass them on. Probably why the "common cold" is caused by over 200 different viruses and they were probably at one time in the "more deadly" category. One paper I read decades ago said that in the entire world it may be up to 600 "common cold" viruses.
That huge number also explains why no vaccine/cure for the cold.