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Aug 12, 2020 15:22:02   #
DocDav Loc: IN
 
LWW wrote:
Because the Trump haters need a high death count.


Stupidest thing I have heard today LWW. And I have heard a lot. go away. find a rock. Crawl under. Rot. diagnosis. Too Stupid to Live.

Tyo actually accuse and or belive any one whats others to actually die to win an election is beyond comment.

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Aug 12, 2020 15:23:29   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
DocDav wrote:
Stupidest thing I have heard today LWW. And I have heard a lot. go away. find a rock. Crawl under. Rot. diagnosis. Too Stupid to Live.

Tyo actually accuse and or belive any one whats others to actually die to win an election is beyond comment.


He is sick, very sick.

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Aug 12, 2020 15:56:40   #
DocDav Loc: IN
 
Kraken wrote:
He is sick, very sick.


yep

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Aug 12, 2020 15:58:30   #
paulrph1 Loc: Washington, Utah
 
foodie65 wrote:
We’ll lay off when he gets out of our lives


If that is how you get your jollies, well go ahead. A man who wants to give the government back to the people should not be compared to Socialist who want to take everything away from you.

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Aug 12, 2020 16:36:18   #
Reuss Griffiths Loc: Ravenna, Ohio
 
Wow. Lots of heat but not much light is being shed. It doesn't matter whether the Russians have developed a vaccine or not. If they have, they will boast about it forever. If they haven't, they will boast about it forever anyway and no one will know the difference or trying to find out will leave everything murky. Just like China and the origins of the virus. The sad thing about discussions like these is that the only light shed is what it takes to please some of the participants.

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Aug 12, 2020 16:40:24   #
DocDav Loc: IN
 
Reuss Griffiths wrote:
Wow. Lots of heat but not much light is being shed. It doesn't matter whether the Russians have developed a vaccine or not. If they have, they will boast about it forever. If they haven't, they will boast about it forever anyway and no one will know the difference or trying to find out will leave everything murky. Just like China and the origins of the virus. The sad thing about discussions like these is that the only light shed is what it takes to please some of the participants.


Reuss is correct. Medically it is very unlikely they have developed a "Safe and Effective" Vaccine without Stage III trials. However unlikely, it is not impossible. They have named it Sputnik deliberately to remind us they beat us into space. personally, I don't care. Sooner or later any serious reactions from said vaccine, if present, will leak out and we will know. Who wins the "race"? who cares. Let just beat this thing.

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Aug 12, 2020 16:52:06   #
Kraken Loc: Barry's Bay
 
DocDav wrote:
Reuss is correct. Medically it is very unlikely they have developed a "Safe and Effective" Vaccine without Stage III trials. However unlikely, it is not impossible. They have named it Sputnik deliberately to remind us they beat us into space. personally, I don't care. Sooner or later any serious reactions from said vaccine, if present, will leak out and we will know. Who wins the "race"? who cares. Let just beat this thing.



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Aug 12, 2020 18:18:46   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
DocDav wrote:
Stupidest thing I have heard today LWW. And I have heard a lot. go away. find a rock. Crawl under. Rot. diagnosis. Too Stupid to Live.

Tyo actually accuse and or belive any one whats others to actually die to win an election is beyond comment.

Read the Trump haters in the forum.

Your anger is aimed at the wrong person.

The ghouls are absolutely orgasmic over the death count.

But as a mild taste of their thinking “older people need to die so that the next generation can form a better society” ... now, who should crawl under a rock?

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Aug 12, 2020 18:43:03   #
DocDav Loc: IN
 
LWW wrote:
Read the Trump haters in the forum.

Your anger is aimed at the wrong person.

The ghouls are absolutely orgasmic over the death count.


What deaths we have are on trump. That's a no brainers. But there is not one which is gleeful at the deaths of others. I despise trump. Pence even more. Bi do not wish for the deaths of others. I may use that death toll in an argument but that does not mean I want it.

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Aug 12, 2020 18:47:24   #
PAR4DCR Loc: A Sunny Place
 
I think that I will wait awhile.

Don

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Aug 12, 2020 18:48:48   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
DocDav wrote:
What deaths we have are on trump. That's a no brainers. But there is not one which is gleeful at the deaths of others. I despise trump. Pence even more. Bi do not wish for the deaths of others. I may use that death toll in an argument but that does not mean I want it.


I didn’t say you.

Read up on a member named rixpix and another named MJMOORE.

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Aug 12, 2020 22:39:41   #
Reuss Griffiths Loc: Ravenna, Ohio
 
DocDav wrote:
What deaths we have are on trump. That's a no brainers. But there is not one which is gleeful at the deaths of others. I despise trump. Pence even more. Bi do not wish for the deaths of others. I may use that death toll in an argument but that does not mean I want it.


Does that include the deaths in the nursing homes in NY after the governor signed the order to place them there even after Pres. Trump provided hospital beds (unused) that could have housed them. It's always easy to assign blame and never accept it and you're right, it doesn't take any brains.

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Aug 12, 2020 23:28:32   #
lautenk2
 
LWW wrote:
If it weren't for profits, most drugs wouldn't exist.


Also, if it weren't for profits, most people on this forum would never have earned enough money to own a camera. Curious how nobody complains about unfair profits and then proceeds to start a non-profit corporation to develop a vaccine, out of the goodness of their heart of course. I guess profits are only filthy when they're earned by people you don't know, and scientists and engineers should all be forced to work for free, or something. I used to be a liberal.

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Aug 13, 2020 03:05:29   #
Delderby Loc: Derby UK
 
lautenk2 wrote:
Also, if it weren't for profits, most people on this forum would never have earned enough money to own a camera. Curious how nobody complains about unfair profits and then proceeds to start a non-profit corporation to develop a vaccine, out of the goodness of their heart of course. I guess profits are only filthy when they're earned by people you don't know, and scientists and engineers should all be forced to work for free, or something. I used to be a liberal.


As I am a UK member, I try to stay out of the topics that turn political - however, there are profits and then there are profits. Reasonable profits are healthy, but the profits made by the likes of Apple and Microsoft and
Adobe and Big Pharma are not reasonable - neither are the salaries paid to their executives. Don't be fooled into thinking that Big Pharma need big profits for research. Big profits are the botton line after R&D. One way to hide profits is just to pay bigger and bigger executive salaries in the millions of $s.

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Aug 13, 2020 05:11:57   #
11bravo
 
Delderby wrote:
As I am a UK member, I try to stay out of the topics that turn political - however, there are profits and then there are profits. Reasonable profits are healthy, but the profits made by the likes of Apple and Microsoft and
Adobe and Big Pharma are not reasonable - neither are the salaries paid to their executives. Don't be fooled into thinking that Big Pharma need big profits for research. Big profits are the botton line after R&D. One way to hide profits is just to pay bigger and bigger executive salaries in the millions of $s.
As I am a UK member, I try to stay out of the topi... (show quote)
Agree. When I started my career, it was with a privately owned company. Salaries were decent, management were engineers too paid decent, not obscene salaries, and most profit was ploughed back into research. Then the owner died, company went public, beancounters became managers, research declined, benefits for worker bees declined, management looked out for themselves, and it was ALL about RONA... Company only exists in history books now.

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