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Aug 7, 2020 10:48:55   #
Heather Iles Loc: UK, Somerset
 
DAN Phillips wrote:
Couldn't have happened to a better bunch of people!


Where is your humanity? I am sure that a lot of innocent people were injured such as children happily playing. I dare say that you have your reasons but please leave them for the Attic.

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Aug 7, 2020 10:51:28   #
DAN Phillips Loc: Graysville, GA
 
My humanity is with the 3000= that were killed on 9/11. Live with it or leave it alone!

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Aug 7, 2020 11:07:38   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
DAN Phillips wrote:
My humanity is with the 3000= that were killed on 9/11. Live with it or leave it alone!

Which this incident had no known connection with, so that should not be a part of this discussion - or are you next going to talk about Pearl Harbor .... and then about “The Maine”.

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Aug 7, 2020 11:11:11   #
steve33 Loc: Yarmouth MA
 
Abo wrote:
You don't think innocent people lost their lives?

People like you are part of the problem.


I believe onnocent people died. That's not the point.
You're assuming it was terrorists!

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Aug 7, 2020 11:21:10   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
DAN Phillips wrote:
My humanity is with the 3000= that were killed on 9/11. Live with it or leave it alone!


You mentioned in one comment... until Christ Returns... If I recall from the years in the sandbox at Baptist bible school, [under it was hell and we had best be good and be good slaves**] Well, I recall that Christ would not knock on your door because there would be a sign saying ... "Mid-Easterners Not Welcome" .. That Christ Dude had dark skin!! You would crucify him quickly as punishment for 9-11 which was perhaps a gift from the Saudis for the re-election of a "my brother appointed me" President!!

**Blog by my friend [Shane is a published author, blogger and my photo buddy] S. B. Campbell discussing how Christianity teaches us to accept our plight in life to work hard for minimal pay:
https://afrikin.org/christianity-and-implicit-slavery/

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Aug 7, 2020 11:56:27   #
DAN Phillips Loc: Graysville, GA
 
Ignorance is ignorance! I suppose!

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Aug 7, 2020 12:05:57   #
srt101fan
 
Heather Iles wrote:
I could read it.


On my screen, the top of the ad, where the X would be, was not visible and I couldn't lower the ad to get at it. Weird....😕

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Aug 7, 2020 13:14:10   #
Heather Iles Loc: UK, Somerset
 
srt101fan wrote:
On my screen, the top of the ad, where the X would be, was not visible and I couldn't lower the ad to get at it. Weird....😕


Strange! I didn't read it all so don't worry.

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Aug 7, 2020 13:19:44   #
Daryls Loc: Waco, TX
 
dpullum wrote:
The link had lots of pop-up ads but X them out and it is quite readable.
"When Nasrallah threatened Haifa in 2016, he said it “would be exactly like a nuclear bomb... any rocket that might hit these tanks is capable of creating an effect similar to a nuclear bomb.” Shortly after the explosion, Twitter users speculated that it could have been one such rocket that caused the explosion.
Though this was quickly ruled out,
Beirut was devastated. "

"Britain said on Wednesday that it was too early to speculate on the cause of a massive blast that ripped through Beirut killing at least 100 people.
President Donald Trump on Tuesday cast the explosion as a possible attack, though Lebanese leaders said that it was likely caused by highly explosive material that had been stored at warehouses in the capital for years."

"When asked by a reporter if he was confident that it was an attack, Trump said: ``I met with some of our great generals and they just seem to feel that it was.'' Tho unfounded it could be an excuse for war? Perhaps, wars are politically useful.
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/world-news/massive-explosion-shakes-lebanons-capital-beirut/articleshow/77356143.cms

Read more at:
https://economictimes.indiatimes.com/news/international/world-news/massive-explosion-shakes-lebanons-capital-beirut/articleshow/77356143.cms?utm_source=contentofinterest&utm_medium=text&utm_campaign=cppst
https://www.haaretz.com/middle-east-news/u-k-rebukes-trump-too-early-to-speculate-on-cause-of-massive-blast-in-beirut-1.9047949

The fact that there was a fire, probably in the fireworks factory suggests that a $2 rocket was the cause of the major blast. A $2 rocket is not a ICBM, a watchman smoking, a rat/mouse biting on something to cause a spark in unstable fireworks; it does not take much!
"Fireworks and ammonium nitrate appear to have been the fuel that ignited a massive explosion that rocked the Lebanese capital of Beirut, experts and videos of the blast suggest.

The scale of the damage — from the epicenter of the explosion at the port of Beirut to the windows blown out kilometers (miles) away — resembles other blasts involving the chemical compound commonly used as an agricultural fertilizer.

But the compound itself typically doesn’t detonate on its own and requires another ignition source. That likely came from a fire that engulfed what initially appeared to be fireworks that were stored at the port. "
https://apnews.com/cbeb3263d6fc30a63a0300f588e7207b

Fireworks are made to explode, that is why you buy them. "The number of dead from a massive explosion at a fireworks factory in north eastern China has risen to at least 19 workers, with five still missing, according to the official Xinhua News Agency.
Up to 50 people were working at the factory in the city of Yichun in Heilongjiang province when it was rocked by the explosion on Monday morning. It damaged nearby buildings and caused secondary blasts, according to a statement posted on the local government's website. A total of 153 people were injured by the explosion. " August 2010
https://www.bbc.com/news/av/world-asia-pacific-10995938/fatal-blast-at-china-fireworks-factory
The link had lots of pop-up ads but X them out and... (show quote)



Original reports indicated local firefighters were at the port fighting a fire which subsequently spread to the warehouse holding the ammonium nitrate. The ammonium nitrate was stored therefor years and absorbed moisture, which makes the chemical more susceptible to deflagration. The video shows many small flashes prior to the massive explosion indicating fireworks being set off. Then the massive explosion followed by a red smoke cloud (small possibility from ammonium nitrate being deteriorated, but more likely from other chemicals - maybe Hezbollah rocket motors or the fireworks), followed by a dirty white/grey cloud (ammonium nitrate burning). The explosion killed the firefighters just as one did here in West, Texas a few years ago. The cause of the original fire is under investigation.

Daryl

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Aug 7, 2020 13:31:10   #
One Rude Dawg Loc: Athol, ID
 
dpullum wrote:
"On April 16, 1947, one of the largest industrial explosions ever killed an estimated 576 people in Texas City, about 40 miles south of Houston.

Recently uncovered video from the incident shows that smoke and flames that raged in Texas City after the deadly blasts.

A cargo ship called the Grandcamp, which had previously been docked in Houston, was docked in Texas City. While there, it was being loaded with ammonium nitrate fertilizer, an extremely flammable substance."

If you google Ammonium Nitrate Explosions there is a long list of them.
"On April 16, 1947, one of the largest indust... (show quote)


Paybacks for the Marine barracks bombing back in 1983. Darn.

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Aug 7, 2020 13:39:00   #
srt101fan
 
DAN Phillips wrote:
Couldn't have happened to a better bunch of people!


I think of all the hardships and misery that people in that region have suffered.... and you think they deserve it? Shame on you....

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Aug 7, 2020 13:44:56   #
distill Loc: Huthwaite, Nottinghamshire UK
 
Well two ways to look at this the people were very unlucky and it should not have happened if it had a stable government, but it hasn't had one of those for ages
OR
They were very lucky as if it had been moved to a small industrial estate in the city, then the whole place could have been destroyed with thousands dead but they were lucky and it wasn't
In the port area and around 50% of the explosion was out to sea, I bet the crew on the tanker that was going past shit themselves ( this I know as I sailed on tankers in my younger days and fires /explosions onboard very scary

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Aug 7, 2020 14:10:50   #
dpullum Loc: Tampa Florida
 
Distill said in part: "Well two ways to look at this the people were very unlucky and it should not have happened if it had a stable government, but it [Lebanon] hasn't had one of those for ages."

Stable Government... is ours?

I am foggy on the date and place in NJ, USA... there was a shutdown industrial sit, fenced and stacked inside and out with hazardous waste. It took years for this to accumulate and it was not discovered by the "stable" government until it caught fire ... the best solution was to let it burn rather than spraying water to quell the fire and contaminating streams and groundwater.

I worked doing record-keeping on the 25-acre Cleve Reber superfund site is located in Sorrento, Louisiana. Mr Reber disappeared without a trace for good reason. He had grown rich selling soil to the state for building up roadways. OK, with a big hole in the ground, you make even more money allowing major industries to use the 25 acre pit as an industrial dump site... hazardous waste included. The "stable" government finally caught up with where the river pollution was coming from. All those companies had to pay big for the cleanup.

Presently the EPA has been gutted and the industry is getting away with unchecked pollution. The wise-ones know that once the political appointee is gone, and reason returns, the polluters will be paying big fines and cleanup costs.

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Aug 7, 2020 14:16:12   #
FrankR Loc: NYC
 
lowkick wrote:
This one wasn't an industrial accident. Beirut was a terrorist munitions stash accident!


Have you any evidence to support your statement; a reliable and verifiable source?

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Aug 7, 2020 15:10:46   #
Dennis 221
 
so sad! an PEOPLE have nerve to compare this accident to a real Oklahoma white American terrorist

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