Strodav wrote:
I have both the Tamron 150-600mm f/5-6.3 G2 and Nikon 200-500mm f/5.6 and have achieved good results with both. I have used both on my D7200, but mostly with my D500. I'd go with the Nikon glass for the following reasons: 1) while both lenses are about equal in sharpness in the center, the Nikon is sharper both 1/2 way out from the center and certainly in the corners compared to the Tamron. Sharpness was the first thing I checked when I had both lenses together; 2) The Nikon focuses faster than the Tamron especially at longer focal lengths. I believe this is because the Nikon stays at f/5.6 throughout where the Tamron goes to f/5.6 around 250mm, f/6 around 325mm, f/6.3 around 450mm, so it's letting less light in to the AF system starting around 325mm compared to the Nikon; 3) You can AF with a 1.4x teleconverter with the Nikon lens, which goes to f/8 and the center AF point on a D7200 works at f/8, but AF will be noticeably slower. I do not recommend a 1.4x with the Tamron as it takes you beyond f/8 around 325mm, so you are manual focus only; 4) Tamron specs the lens at 600mm, but it is not, it's somewhere around 540 to 550mm. Reviewers have also found this. IMHO you are better off with the 200-500mm and a 1.4x teleconverter, which gets you to 1.4 x 500 = 700mm or an effective 1.5 (DX) x 1.4 x 500 = 1050mm; 5) To make a long story short, the Tamron was soft at longer focal lengths out of the box, ... , sent it back to Tamron with my D7200, ... , it was no better when I got it back. It wasn't until after I tuned it that I started getting good results beyond 450mm.
FWIW.
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Thank you for a precise, comparative explanation. That is exactly what I was hoping for. And, thanks to the OP for asking the question in the first place.
Here’s the answer. I rented both lenses. Rather than just buy. I am a canon guy but do you like Chevy or ford. The battle continues. My point let the dealer know know what you want to do. They will be obliging enough. But if you are a purchaser from amazon prime. Give them a call. Ask if the return policy still applies to these lenses. Order try on your camera. Then make your decision You do have choices.
Not answering what you asked but I think the "perfect" BIF setup would be the Sony a9ii + Sony 400 2.8... seems like that would be blazingly fast with AF locking... anybody want to loan me some money?
Thanks to all of the respondents to my request for information and opinions about the Tamron 150-600mm G2 vs the Nikon 200-500mm for my D7200. Your replies have been thoughtful, informative, helpful, and much appreciated. Now if only I could afford to get them both; along with the 500mm, I would have the perfect solution.
Again, thanks everyone.
Go Nikon rather than Tamron. The 200-500 is a great telephoto lens for the money. However, I bet that all of your big pics will be at or near 500mm so if you can then go for a 500PF then that’s the option to look at. It’s lighter has a stop better light and you can carry it all day. Haven’t touched my telephoto lenses since I got the 300 and 500 PF lenses and I use the 500pf 90+% of the time.
Agree with Tony. Same situation for me. Thinking of selling my 200 - 500mm. Haven't used since I purchased the 500mm pf. And yes, when you are shooting birds most be at 500mm.
fchretdet wrote:
I've been reading reviews until I could almost write one myself (but still can't decide on which one) for the Tamron 150-600mm 5-6.3 G2 vs. the Nikon 200-500 5.6 vr for my D7200 with MB-D15 battery grip.
Opinions, thoughts, experiences?
Thanks in advance.
Nikon 200-500 with D7200 will be just fine. Auto ISO, not greater than f/5.6 and shutter speed between 1/2000 and 1/3200. Continuous servo.
billnikon
Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
Karl's Bird Photography wrote:
Not answering what you asked but I think the "perfect" BIF setup would be the Sony a9ii + Sony 400 2.8... seems like that would be blazingly fast with AF locking... anybody want to loan me some money?
I know we are talking big dollars here but there are deals to be found if your ready and willing to search. I just got the Sony 600 f4 that retails for $13,000, mint, used twice for $9,000.00. Now, I have been putting money back and I got 24 months same as cash so I am into it for about $150.00 a month for two years plus my down payment.
Don't get me wrong, their is nothing wrong with the 400 2.8, but the reach for BIF is just not their, in door sports, yes, outdoor BIF, not so much. For the weight and price, the 600 is the way to go.
The Sony a9II is NOT a big step in focusing speed from the a9. So the a9 used would make the better deal. Just sayin.
billnikon wrote:
I know we are talking big dollars here but there are deals to be found if your ready and willing to search. I just got the Sony 600 f4 that retails for $13,000, mint, used twice for $9,000.00. Now, I have been putting money back and I got 24 months same as cash so I am into it for about $150.00 a month for two years plus my down payment.
Don't get me wrong, their is nothing wrong with the 400 2.8, but the reach for BIF is just not their, in door sports, yes, outdoor BIF, not so much. For the weight and price, the 600 is the way to go.
The Sony a9II is NOT a big step in focusing speed from the a9. So the a9 used would make the better deal. Just sayin.
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Yes, 400 is OK on crop frame - which is 600 on FF ! ......so that is still about 12K USED for the lens and body
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billnikon
Loc: Pennsylvania/Ohio/Florida/Maui/Oregon/Vermont
imagemeister wrote:
Yes, 400 is OK on crop frame - which is 600 on FF ! ......so that is still about 12K USED for the lens and body
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Since I was 8 years old and working in my older brothers darkroom my only hobby has been photography.
That lens I got, the 600 f4 for 9K, is an investment, I could easily sell it in mint condition in two years for 10K. Besides, look at all the fun I will have for the next two years, it's like renting it for free.
My houses are basic, my cars are basic, my photography is not, that is my one splurge, at 71, I deserve it.
I was a professional photographer for over 30 years, was a stringer for United Press International, a Nikon Rep.,and did more senior pictures and weddings than I can count.
For me, it's not about the money, it's about the ride. Each person travels their own road, mine is full of images.
Strodav wrote:
I have both the Tamron 150-600mm f/5-6.3 G2 and Nikon 200-500mm f/5.6 and have achieved good results with both. I have used both on my D7200, but mostly with my D500. I'd go with the Nikon glass for the following reasons: 1) while both lenses are about equal in sharpness in the center, the Nikon is sharper both 1/2 way out from the center and certainly in the corners compared to the Tamron. Sharpness was the first thing I checked when I had both lenses together; 2) The Nikon focuses faster than the Tamron especially at longer focal lengths. I believe this is because the Nikon stays at f/5.6 throughout where the Tamron goes to f/5.6 around 250mm, f/6 around 325mm, f/6.3 around 450mm, so it's letting less light in to the AF system starting around 325mm compared to the Nikon; 3) You can AF with a 1.4x teleconverter with the Nikon lens, which goes to f/8 and the center AF point on a D7200 works at f/8, but AF will be noticeably slower. I do not recommend a 1.4x with the Tamron as it takes you beyond f/8 around 325mm, so you are manual focus only; 4) Tamron specs the lens at 600mm, but it is not, it's somewhere around 540 to 550mm. Reviewers have also found this. IMHO you are better off with the 200-500mm and a 1.4x teleconverter, which gets you to 1.4 x 500 = 700mm or an effective 1.5 (DX) x 1.4 x 500 = 1050mm; 5) To make a long story short, the Tamron was soft at longer focal lengths out of the box, ... , sent it back to Tamron with my D7200, ... , it was no better when I got it back. It wasn't until after I tuned it that I started getting good results beyond 450mm.
FWIW.
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I agree with you. I have both.
For "birds in trees" (BIT?) there is no such thing as a "long enough" lens! No matter how long a telephoto you've got, there will be times you wish you had something a little longer. Keep in mind size, weight, difficulty getting on target and getting a steady shot... even the potential for atmosphere degrading images when subjects that are just too far away and other factors that come with the longest focal lengths!
Using a telephoto on an APS-C/DX camera gives helpful, added "reach"... But it also magnifies many of the possible "issues" and challenges of telephoto work.
For BIF it's another matter. There is such a thing as "too long" a telephoto. Focus performance, camera and lens ability to maintain focus on a fast moving subject, are additional concerns. A larger aperture lens might allow AF to work better and faster shutter speeds to be used to freeze movement.
"For BIF it's another matter. There is such a thing as "too long" a telephoto. Focus performance, camera and lens ability to maintain focus on a fast moving subject, are additional concerns. A larger aperture lens might allow AF to work better and faster shutter speeds to be used to freeze movement."
That's what I was thinking... f/2.8 would AF faster and you could always add a TC if you needed more reach (and lose a stop or two in the process).
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