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Jul 25, 2020 08:16:39   #
Dngallagher Loc: Wilmington De.
 
WJShaheen wrote:
I certainly understand the proprietary nature of a Nikon raw file. That's what I meant by, "the raw file's extension (i.e., NEF or CR3) belies the brand, all one has to do is initially map the file to a program ("open with") and then it's a simple matter of opening the image ". So, I didn't say it can be opened by just any software.

Obviously, one wouldn't map it to just any program and I was inferring the one would open with one of the programs I was discusing. In fact, I currently have my Open With for NEFs set to ViewNX-I. But that cold just as easily be mapped to ON1 or Luminar.
I certainly understand the proprietary nature of a... (show quote)


Well, that makes it a little clearer, not confusing to others who read it like I did.

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Jul 25, 2020 08:29:50   #
WJShaheen Loc: Gold Canyon, AZ
 
Dngallagher wrote:
Well, that makes it a little clearer, not confusing to others who read it like I did.


Are we hearing from others who think it's confusing?

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Jul 25, 2020 08:32:07   #
Dngallagher Loc: Wilmington De.
 
WJShaheen wrote:
Are we hearing from others who think it's confusing?


Time will tell I suppose...

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Jul 25, 2020 08:59:26   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Dngallagher wrote:
Time will tell I suppose...


If they choose to shoot in RAW and don't know how to convert their images to a format consistent with their decision to use GIMP, that's on them .... not what they read on the internet.

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Jul 25, 2020 09:04:22   #
bsmith52 Loc: Northeast Alabama
 
LarryFitz wrote:
Both PP and GIMP require an investment in time to get the most out of either product. Time is a bigger investment than the money.


I agree with Larry...time is the greatest investment with LR PS AND Gimp.

On these forums and others one of he greatest missed programs for the amateur is Picasa. Simple edits, sufficient organization, very little time.

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Jul 25, 2020 11:18:18   #
one_eyed_pete Loc: Colonie NY
 
WJShaheen wrote:
I certainly understand the proprietary nature of a Nikon raw file. That's what I meant by, "the raw file's extension (i.e., NEF or CR3) belies the brand, all one has to do is initially map the file to a program ("open with") and then it's a simple matter of opening the image ". So, I didn't say it can be opened by just any software.

Obviously, one wouldn't map it to just any program and I was inferring the one would open with one of the programs I was discusing. In fact, I currently have my Open With for NEFs set to ViewNX-I. But that cold just as easily be mapped to ON1 or Luminar.
I certainly understand the proprietary nature of a... (show quote)


Not to be picky but perhaps the confusion was because you used an incorrect word. "belies" means "fail to give a true notion or impression of (something)". In fact the opposite is true.

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Jul 25, 2020 11:23:27   #
jcryan Loc: Las Terrenas, Dominican Republic
 
My experience is limited to the last 3 years of digital photography. I am now retired and on a fixed income so I'm parsimonious as well. I use Darktable and Gimp exclusively and while there is a learning curve, you can find videos for both products to address overall digital workflow or usage of specific tools and modules.

When I was on Windows I used Nikon's ViewNX-i to quickly develop the raw files to SOOC JPGs to review. Since it doesn't run under Ubuntu I shoot in Raw+JPG. I view the JPGs to make sure there are worth while images then DarkTable to develop the best of them (DT has great organizing capabilities similar to LR) and then on to GIMP or other tools to create panoramas, HDR, and focus stacking with Hugin, Luminance HDR, and CombineZP (via Wine) respectively all tools are also available on Windows.

If you are an amature and just starting out with post processing you will have a learning curve with any tool. Save you're $$ for when you turn pro.

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Jul 25, 2020 12:18:12   #
WJShaheen Loc: Gold Canyon, AZ
 
one_eyed_pete wrote:
Not to be picky but perhaps the confusion was because you used an incorrect word. "belies" means "fail to give a true notion or impression of (something)". In fact the opposite is true.


Yes. Good point, than you.

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Jul 25, 2020 14:34:59   #
Brucej67 Loc: Cary, NC
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
With documentation and demonstration usage / training videos freely available on the internet, you likely don't need to pay for software. But, if you shoot RAW, you have an extra step to convert the RAW to TIFF or JPEG prior to editing in GIMP. For the RAW shooter, this may be worth the money to work directly in the purchased software, particularly software that constantly updates for new camera / RAW releases.


Gimp uses Darktable (also free) to convert raw files to jpeg that GIMP uses. Works something like ACR to Photoshop CC.

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Jul 25, 2020 14:41:35   #
edrobinsonjr Loc: Boise, Idaho
 
I use Picasa for "cataloging" and some basic adjustments. I use GIMP for everything else.

I can use PS brushes and GIMP has a plugin that allows me to use PS plugins if necessary.

GIMP links to Darktable so I can open raw files. I use the NIK collection with GIMP.

I have yet to find anything lacking in GIMP for my purposes.

I do not know what PS does that GIMP doesn't so I cannot address differences.

Ed

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Jul 25, 2020 14:42:52   #
pego101
 
what's pp?

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Jul 25, 2020 14:54:03   #
johngault007 Loc: Florida Panhandle
 
Brucej67 wrote:
Gimp uses Darktable (also free) to convert raw files to jpeg that GIMP uses. Works something like ACR to Photoshop CC.


GIMP has the capability to open raw files with the assistance of a plugin. But I am not aware of any version of GIMP that converts raw files via darktable natively.


On the other hand, DigiKam (another great FOSS program) will convert raw files to DNG upon import, and it's a asset management program as well.

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Jul 25, 2020 14:56:54   #
Brucej67 Loc: Cary, NC
 
johngault007 wrote:
GIMP has the capability to open raw files with the assistance of a plugin. But I am not aware of any version of GIMP that converts raw files via darktable natively.


On the other hand, DigiKam (another great FOSS program) will convert raw files to DNG upon import, and it's a asset management program as well.


GIMP uses Darktable to convert raw files to JPEG (all current versions).

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Jul 25, 2020 15:55:39   #
rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA
 
Harry0 wrote:
For both, actually.
Buy Adobe, get Adobe. Looks like Adobe. Works like Adobe, Very good products.
Get Gimp. VERRY customizable, 3 popular PS kinda look/work- like skins, if you want.
Somwhere I have an skin that make Gimp look like Yosemite. Top, side and bottom PS bars.
Total price for all my Gimp doodads- screen time.
And I'll always have an answer and a fix around.


Excellent point. There are many who try GIMP, don't like the default layout, then quickly give up.... not realizing that GIMP is extremely customizable, allowing the user to alter the layout for a particular workflow or desired look.

I would even say that for the majority of photographers, GIMP is plenty sufficient for their editing needs. And with each new version, more and more new features are introduced. Of course there are those who believe that if something is free, it can't possibly be good.

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Jul 25, 2020 15:56:27   #
edrobinsonjr Loc: Boise, Idaho
 
rook2c4 wrote:
Excellent point. There are many who try GIMP, don't like the default layout, then quickly give up.... not realizing that GIMP is extremely customizable, allowing the user to alter the layout for a particular workflow or desired look.

I would even say that for the majority of photographers, GIMP is plenty sufficient for their editing needs. And with each new version, more and more new features are introduced. Of course there are those who believe that if something is free, it can't possibly be good.
Excellent point. There are many who try GIMP, don'... (show quote)



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