DarthMicrowave

Didn't say you were. Just that you're 90 miles away and it's the second largest county in the US. Care to show all the counties that got you to say it's "generally" not the way it works?
Also, just posted an example in Florida where it appears to be the same as your neighbors in Cook county.

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

I repeat ... Cook county is in a different state - I do not know for certain how they handle things. I do know how my state operates, and my "generally" is true. If you read up on your history - such as summer of 1968 - you will find out that Chicago often does not do things as the rest of the country does.

Michigan is also a different state even though it is just twelve miles away {and we were in Michigan at one time}.

Florida is already known for 'cheating' on these things - but usually the other way,

DarthMicrowave

I repeat...I never said you were from IL. I said you were too close to not know about a county that is fairly close in population to your state. So your "generally" is actually not very relevant if you don't include anything more than 12 miles away. Thought you were talking about the US. Since you're not...I'm not very interested.

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

I include most of the US - the exceptions do not rule.

fetzler Loc: North West PA

I know in the madness of COVID hysteria that it is difficult to think.

There are clinical studies on the use of HCQ that show promising results and others that do not. It may be that HCQ is helpful only when used in certain ways and at certain times.

The article is interesting in that for the population discussed little disease is observed. Homeless people in New York City and California were tested for COVID and wound found to have in many instances to have been exposed to COVID but none were sick. Poor people living poverty are exposed to a lot of potential sources of infection (including sources not related to COVID). It likely that such individuals have robust immune systems as they are not already dead. It many also be true that eating a lot of super piquant vindaloo will cure all diseases (HI HI)

No one has to trust doctors nor should you. The literature is open to those who wish to learn. Question EVERYTHING you doctor tells you. You are entitled to an explanation of a treatment plan. I have found that good doctors will provide information easily.

I had a physician prescribe drugs that could kill me. Fortunately, I knew how the drugs worked and why they would be inappropriate. It is YOUR job to ask and read.

The Ronald Regan principle very much applies to medicine - trust but verify.

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

This disease is very new, and we are learning all the time.

I trust my physician.
The one time I didn't, I found another.

frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.

What that does is skew the stats and get them more money! It is messed up is what it is. If the death was not caused by covid, it should not even be listed, other than a person who had it. It is done this way to scare us more and think more people are dying of covid than really are......Read my previous where I said a person here died of a heart attack and they tested IMMEDIATELY for the virus. This was done not only to get paid for the test but to skew the data if he had it. We will never know the truth as to how many deaths were ACTUALLY caused by the virus. This is not just in Il. It is also here in Ca.

fetzler Loc: North West PA

Guys, go back to school. You have much to learn about vaccines. Viruses often have different strains and a vaccine may be only effective against some strains. The shingles vaccine is only at best 50% effective (This is close but check). There are different shingles vaccines. There is still more to learn.

DarthMicrowave

So far the exceptions appear to at least include IL, FL and CA. That 12 mile radius is starting to look cozy.

IL and FL I gave links...and it's not hard to believe our friend who said he had direct knowledge of nurses who claim the exact same practice.
Also, Colorado had clearly been practicing the same method, which is directly opposed to what you "generally" claim counts as a Covid death. https://www.coloradoan.com/story/news/2020/05/16/colorado-changes-how-coronavirus-deaths-state-counted/5198485002/
They've since adjusted (lowered) their counts.

Diocletian

"How's it "Not true." The motorcycle scenario literally just happened this month...in a 'red' state - Florida."

I read the entire article which stated that the motorcycle accident had initially been counted as a Covid death but then was corrected. I don't believe that this is proof that the deaths are overcounted. The rest of the article addressed the requirements for tallying Covid deaths.

And this Yale study says that Covid deaths are underreported:

https://www.cnbc.com/2020/07/01/official-us-coronavirus-death-toll-is-a-substantial-undercount-of-actual-tally-new-yale-study-finds.html

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

They are failing then,
"Kids" are continuing to party,
are continuing to be infected,
are continuing to occupy hospital beds,
are continuing to die. Everywhere.

Mark Sturtevant Loc: Grand Blanc, MI

So much disinformation here, as people make claims that are based on their prior world view rather than on existing facts.
Researchers are trying desperately to understand this extremely challenging virus. Front line medical people, are all trying to treat patients as best they can while the impatient and the ignorant gather in bars and public pools, making 1000s more patients a day. In just a month we have drank and partied away much chance for children to be educated in-person come this Fall. Medical personnel are being run ragged.

As for all those dark claims about getting money for Covid patients, well its either revenue for Covid treatments or revenue for surgery and other medical procedures -- and those other procedures have to be put on hold as much as possible.
Medical care is not free. Especially in the U.S.

Tex-s

It is astounding what the human immune system can do if you allow it to work out and strengthen itself. Also amazing is what happens when an immune system is allowed to atrophy by constant hand washing, masking and hand sanitizing. You deny the immune system its workout and also populate the body with only those would-be pathogens that have already survived hand sanitizer, masking, and hand washing.

frangela-2 Loc: San Clemente, CA

What’s to wonder? If you have no political agenda then you should know this already! Our President does!
Also there’s this other thing about Big Pharma needing to make billions off anti-virals and vaccines.

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

The immune system needs something to work with. In this case it apparently has very little. A person can go from a ‘little cough’ to being unable to breathe or to a body full of blood clots in just a day or so.