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Jul 23, 2020 11:34:04   #
2Dragons Loc: The Back of Beyond
 
mikee wrote:
From mediabiasfactcheck.

Overall, we rate the American Thinker, Questionable based on extreme right wing bias, promotion of conspiracy theories/pseudoscience, use of poor sources and several failed fact checks.


This is a story from the LA Times paralleling the story from American Thinker. The LA Times leans to the Left, so I doubt very much they'd run something picked up from American Thinker.

https://www.latimes.com/world-nation/story/2020-06-24/dharavi-slum-in-mumbai-india-contained-covid-19

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Jul 23, 2020 12:08:13   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
Toby wrote:
Frank you take all the fun out of it when you begin listing the facts or locical thinking.


I'm sorry . So many people say " why did I get it, I had the vaccine". Unaware if what a vaccine does.

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Jul 23, 2020 12:30:31   #
clint f. Loc: Priest Lake Idaho, Spokane Wa
 
nospambob wrote:
Trump owns stock in the company that mfrs it


Please show some evidence of this. If it were true do you think Chuck, Nancy and the squad would pass up the opportunity to skewer the President over it. While doing your research please look up the definition of “blind trust”.

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Jul 23, 2020 13:45:44   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
IDguy wrote:
It is allowed here and used by many including president Trump. The left fake media disses it because Trump was first to mention it.

It's failing to do any good in 'blind' tests would be another reason.

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Jul 23, 2020 14:41:01   #
IDguy Loc: Idaho
 
rehess wrote:
It's failing to do any good in 'blind' tests would be another reason.


Those tests have been discredited.

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Jul 23, 2020 15:16:19   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
IDguy wrote:
Those tests have been discredited.

By anyone having any knowledge?????

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Jul 23, 2020 15:27:05   #
danbir1 Loc: North Potomac, MD
 


One thing is for sure, it is NOT because of the hydroxychloroquine, vitamin D, and zinc tablets along with homeopathic medicines."

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Jul 23, 2020 16:08:47   #
nobody13579
 
frankraney wrote:
Not covid related....... Money and stat related, yes...I have several nurse friends. There was a patient in the hospital here that died of a heart attack. They immediately tested him for covid.... They did/do this for two reasons.
1.. They get paid GOOD money to perform the test.
2. It is used for stats you see how many people have covid.

IT DOES NOT GO DOWN AS COVID RELATED UNLESS THE DEATH WAS CAUSED BY COVID.


There could be a third reason. If the person tests positive for covid the people who came in contact with said person would be in danger of contracting the virus as well.

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Jul 23, 2020 16:14:51   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
frankraney wrote:
Not covid related....... Money and stat related, yes...I have several nurse friends. There was a patient in the hospital here that died of a heart attack. They immediately tested him for covid.... They did/do this for two reasons.
1.. They get paid GOOD money to perform the test.
2. It is used for stats you see how many people have covid.

IT DOES NOT GO DOWN AS COVID RELATED UNLESS THE DEATH WAS CAUSED BY COVID.

3. Covid has been known to cause inflammation and blood clots. If this “heart attack” was a complete surprise, they might want to explore underlying causes.

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Jul 23, 2020 16:34:05   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
nobody13579 wrote:
There could be a third reason. If the person tests positive for covid the people who came in contact with said person would be in danger of contracting the virus as well.


Only if the person lists all contacts before death.

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Jul 23, 2020 17:38:17   #
DarthMicrowave
 
rehess wrote:
I don't know about your state, but that is generally false.

In general, a "Covid related death" is someone for whom Covid was the primary cause of death; in particular, if there is no more obvious cause of death. In other words, someone who would be alive today if s/he had not been infected with Covid.

George Floyd was killed by having Derek Chauvin, kneel on his neck for nearly eight minutes.


If you're really from South Bend, you're way too close to Cook county to believe what you wrote:
https://week.com/2020/04/20/idph-director-explains-how-covid-deaths-are-classified/

This was 3 months ago too. Would love to see an article showing that this practice has been corrected, but I haven't found one yet.

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Jul 23, 2020 17:42:12   #
Diocletian
 
LWW wrote:
Definition is everything.

In the US if you die in a motorcycle accident and test positive you are a COVID related death. George Floyd was a COVID related death.


Not true. Red states are under reporting. And the CDC has been removed from providing information. Why do you suppose that is?

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Jul 23, 2020 17:44:37   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
DarthMicrowave wrote:
If you're really from South Bend, you're way too close to Cook county to believe what you wrote:
https://week.com/2020/04/20/idph-director-explains-how-covid-deaths-are-classified/

This was 3 months ago too. Would love to see an article showing that this practice has been corrected, but I haven't found one yet.

We have absolutely no connection to Cook county - different state. Our ruby red state does things as I explained it.

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Jul 23, 2020 17:45:51   #
Diocletian
 


American thinker has been rated;

Overall, we rate the American Thinker, Questionable based on extreme right wing bias, promotion of conspiracy theories/pseudoscience, use of poor sources and several failed fact checks.

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Jul 23, 2020 17:46:11   #
DarthMicrowave
 
Diocletian wrote:
Not true. Red states are under reporting. And the CDC has been removed from providing information. Why do you suppose that is?


How's it "Not true." The motorcycle scenario literally just happened this month...in a 'red' state - Florida.

https://www.newsweek.com/florida-man-killed-crash-listed-covid-19-death-raising-doubts-over-health-data-1518994

Edit: forgot the link

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