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Jul 19, 2020 05:23:04   #
TonyBrown
 
I am new to raw editing, but have decided to go down the Capture One Pro 20 route. Bought it with a 25% discount for a Nikon only license. I love it. I find it easy to use and the on line tutorials are great. While I bought editing software for raw use I’m amazed at how much can be done with jpeg files. Now going back and editing my catalogue of jpegs. I know Lightroom/Photoshop seems to be the go to for most people, but I wasn’t happy paying a monthly fee. I have also read some blogs that suggest that Lightroom/Photoshop is more geared towards for graphic design editing. I have to say that some of the pictures I see from Photoshop seem to be moving away from the pictures actually taken to a form of art. Try all the free downloads to see what works best for you, but bear Capture One in mind. Good luck.

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Jul 19, 2020 08:03:22   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
TonyBrown wrote:
I am new to raw editing, but have decided to go down the Capture One Pro 20 route. Bought it with a 25% discount for a Nikon only license. I love it. I find it easy to use and the on line tutorials are great. While I bought editing software for raw use I’m amazed at how much can be done with jpeg files. Now going back and editing my catalogue of jpegs. I know Lightroom/Photoshop seems to be the go to for most people, but I wasn’t happy paying a monthly fee. I have also read some blogs that suggest that Lightroom/Photoshop is more geared towards for graphic design editing. I have to say that some of the pictures I see from Photoshop seem to be moving away from the pictures actually taken to a form of art. Try all the free downloads to see what works best for you, but bear Capture One in mind. Good luck.
I am new to raw editing, but have decided to go do... (show quote)


I have been trying Capture One for Fuji after a pro recommended it to me, and so far, I have been impressed. You can purchase a license outright or on a monthly basis like PS, and there’s a 25% discount offer pretty regularly and a 50% once.

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Jul 19, 2020 09:24:45   #
Marturo Loc: Western North Carolina
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
Take all the ideas and find the free download / trial period for any of the packages that seem interesting. Do this sequentially so you can work with one package at a time for the full duration of the trial period. When you say you spend a lot of time getting it correct in the camera, this sounds like capturing in JPEG. There's nothing wrong / inferior with this approach. Ignore the suggestions to change to RAW that is not the answer to your question about a better digital editor. Seriously consider the standalone PhotoShopElements that will give you basic database management tools (search 'look-up' for your images) and all the advanced tools you'll need for editing JPEGs. The PSE software can last for years, if not forever. I have a copy of PSE10 from 2011 that I continue use every single day for layer-based editing on JPEGs.
Take all the ideas and find the free download / tr... (show quote)


The voice of wisdom for sure.
I down loaded 6 free programs & learned not 1 thing other than Learn 1 at a time they are all different.
Downloaded the free trial of Photo Shop & did not recognize a thing from what I learned about Photo Shop 6. Using the D7100 I have enough to learn about taking great photos with my camera & lens.

As a film shooter who just came over to Digital, I am new to Post Processing. I used Photo Shop 6 back in 2002 to repair slides & negatives only. I bought a program called Affinity for $24.00 1/2 price. So far I like it & have no clue other than the U-tube vidieos I watch what I am doing. However for $24.00 I won't have my feelings hurt if it does not work out.

So what I learned, choose 1 program at a time & learn the right way to use it. Also what we already know, Shoot every shot as if it were the only shot you will get. PP my photos will always take a back seat to trying to get photos that need nothing else done.

Good luck with your quest.

Mike

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Jul 19, 2020 10:33:42   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
TonyBrown wrote:
I am new to raw editing, but have decided to go down the Capture One Pro 20 route. Bought it with a 25% discount for a Nikon only license. I love it. I find it easy to use and the on line tutorials are great. While I bought editing software for raw use I’m amazed at how much can be done with jpeg files. Now going back and editing my catalogue of jpegs. I know Lightroom/Photoshop seems to be the go to for most people, but I wasn’t happy paying a monthly fee. I have also read some blogs that suggest that Lightroom/Photoshop is more geared towards for graphic design editing. I have to say that some of the pictures I see from Photoshop seem to be moving away from the pictures actually taken to a form of art. Try all the free downloads to see what works best for you, but bear Capture One in mind. Good luck.
I am new to raw editing, but have decided to go do... (show quote)



Wow! The license only allows one camera model. What a turn off. I shoot with Canon and Nikon, Nikon mostly, and my wife has a little Kodak P&S.

Just another good reason why $10 a month is so cheap. Unlimited models and unlimited editing. Always up-to-date.

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Jul 19, 2020 12:00:11   #
Delderby Loc: Derby UK
 
Marturo wrote:
The voice of wisdom for sure.
I down loaded 6 free programs & learned not 1 thing other than Learn 1 at a time they are all different.
Downloaded the free trial of Photo Shop & did not recognize a thing from what I learned about Photo Shop 6. Using the D7100 I have enough to learn about taking great photos with my camera & lens.

As a film shooter who just came over to Digital, I am new to Post Processing. I used Photo Shop 6 back in 2002 to repair slides & negatives only. I bought a program called Affinity for $24.00 1/2 price. So far I like it & have no clue other than the U-tube vidieos I watch what I am doing. However for $24.00 I won't have my feelings hurt if it does not work out.

So what I learned, choose 1 program at a time & learn the right way to use it. Also what we already know, Shoot every shot as if it were the only shot you will get. PP my photos will always take a back seat to trying to get photos that need nothing else done.

Good luck with your quest.

Mike
The voice of wisdom for sure. br I down loaded ... (show quote)


Mike - I would recommend that you puchase the Affinity Photo Workbook. It will quickly get you up to speed.

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Jul 19, 2020 12:04:50   #
Marturo Loc: Western North Carolina
 
Delderby wrote:
Mike - I would recommend that you puchase the Affinity Photo Workbook. It will quickly get you up to speed.


It's on the way now. Thanks.
I have to say so far Affinity has been fun to learn so far, I need to learn Less is more sometimes.

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Jul 19, 2020 12:27:18   #
TonyBrown
 
You can get a license that covers more models at a higher cost

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Jul 19, 2020 12:53:51   #
RWR Loc: La Mesa, CA
 
kmac2400 wrote:
I’m a hobbyist and not a professional photographer. I’m looking to upgrade my post-processing abilities. I’m a Nikon shooter, Mac user, and currently use iPhotos and Polarr Pro. I’ve read previous posts which seems to separate the group into Capture One, Lumiar, and Photoshop CC. All of these seem to involve much more program options then someone like me appears to need. As a result, I’m looking at Photoshop Elements 2020. Is this a decent program or is there some critical reason I’m missing that is important for me to reconsider the other options? I try very hard to get it right straight out of the camera the first time so I usually only use post-processing software maybe 100 times a year right now. Maybe with the right program, I would do it more frequently.
Are their critical considerations I am missing? Any suggestions are welcome, I really want to make a well informed decision and figured this group knows far more than I do. Thank you.
I’m a hobbyist and not a professional photographer... (show quote)

The more mistakes you make before tripping the shutter, the more correction software you need afterwards.

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Jul 19, 2020 13:03:28   #
TonyBrown
 
Not so easy for wildlife, particularly birds moving fast against a changing background. Post processing can save your shot

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Jul 19, 2020 17:22:26   #
Harry0 Loc: Gardena, Cal
 
kmac2400 wrote:
I’m a hobbyist and not a professional photographer. I’m looking to upgrade my post-processing abilities. I’m a Nikon shooter, Mac user, and currently use iPhotos and Polarr Pro. I’ve read previous posts which seems to separate the group into Capture One, Lumiar, and Photoshop CC. All of these seem to involve much more program options then someone like me appears to need. As a result, I’m looking at Photoshop Elements 2020. Is this a decent program or is there some critical reason I’m missing that is important for me to reconsider the other options? I try very hard to get it right straight out of the camera the first time so I usually only use post-processing software maybe 100 times a year right now. Maybe with the right program, I would do it more frequently.

Are their critical considerations I am missing? Any suggestions are welcome, I really want to make a well informed decision and figured this group knows far more than I do. Thank you.
I’m a hobbyist and not a professional photographer... (show quote)


One of my kids sent me this:
https://photopad-free-mac-photo-editing-software.en.softonic.com/mac

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Jul 19, 2020 22:48:37   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
There's only two types of people in the world: buyers and subscribers.

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Jul 19, 2020 23:25:24   #
frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
There's only two types of people in the world: buyers and subscribers.


I'd buy that, but I'm a subscriber.

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Jul 20, 2020 21:48:42   #
Paul Diamond Loc: Atlanta, GA, USA
 
I only want to contribute if I believe I can suggest something not already suggested before my post.

You aren't doing much with the computer for your pictures now, per your comment. So, the first thing should be to look at the different apps (or recommedations for specific software), look at the "learning curve" to become familiar if not proficient with the software, the price or subscription to use it, and what it does.

You probably could benefit from a file viewing/management package to look at your OOTC pictures and sort by "keepers", categories of pictures, etc. You may even want to keep separate pics for an occasion or by the date and location of the photos (vacation, family reunion, wedding, sports event, etc.).

Next is to make some "tweaking" of your pics - exposure, contrast, color cast, etc. Next might be something more advanced like selective lightening/darkening, sharpen an ares or blur/soft focus, retouching something that is distracting or a 'mistake', etc.

After learning to do these, you might want to advance to more sophisticated editing features.

Here is where the "learning curve" becomes critically important. PhotoShop is GREAT and the learning curve is literally a lifetime. Many other good software packages are less complicated than PS, but still require a great time investment before you can feel comfortable at using 30%-50% of what the software can do.

You definitely do not want to be lured into getting several software packages, even as N/C trials, and never actually learn what they do and how they can help you.

I'd suggest you try one of the ACDSee packages as a first step. Even the simplest and least costly packages can do the basic organizing/editing features you are likely to use a lot. The more advanced packages are truly fully featured for a future upgrade, when you are ready. They are pretty easy to learn. You have online videos as well as youtube videos to help get you started.

But, don't try to run before you have learned how to crawl. And, think of it as "fun" and "discovery", not work/labor/boring or too difficult and complicated to ever 'get the hang of it' before it makes you give up.

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Jul 20, 2020 21:48:45   #
Paul Diamond Loc: Atlanta, GA, USA
 
I only want to contribute if I believe I can suggest something not already suggested before my post.

You aren't doing much with the computer for your pictures now, per your comment. So, the first thing should be to look at the different apps (or recommedations for specific software), look at the "learning curve" to become familiar if not proficient with the software, the price or subscription to use it, and what it does.

You probably could benefit from a file viewing/management package to look at your OOTC pictures and sort by "keepers", categories of pictures, etc. You may even want to keep separate pic groups for an occasion or by the date and location of the photos (vacation, family reunion, wedding, sports event, etc.).

Next is to make some "tweaking" of your pics - exposure, contrast, color cast, etc. Next might be something more advanced like selective lightening/darkening, sharpen an area or blur/soft focus, retouching something that is distracting or a 'mistake', etc.

After learning to do these, you might want to advance to more sophisticated editing features.

Here is where the "learning curve" becomes critically important. PhotoShop is GREAT and the learning curve is literally a lifetime. Many other good software packages are less complicated than PS, but still require a great time investment before you can feel comfortable at using 30%-50% of what the software can do for you.

You definitely do not want to be lured into getting several software packages, even as N/C trials, and never actually learn what they do and how they can help you.

I'd suggest you try one of the ACDSee packages as a first step. Even the simplest and least costly packages can do the basic organizing/editing features you are likely to use a lot. The more advanced packages are truly fully featured for a future upgrade, when you are ready. They are pretty easy to learn. You have online videos as well as youtube videos to help get you started.

But, don't try to run before you have learned how to crawl. And, think of it as "fun" and "discovery", not work/labor/boring or too difficult and complicated to ever 'get the hang of it' before it makes you give up.

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Jul 21, 2020 07:15:20   #
anotherview Loc: California
 
Ditto.
rcarol wrote:
The advantage of using PSE20 is that it provides a great stepping stone to the more robust Photoshop CC should you decide to got that route sometime in the future.

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