Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM

This coming from you, the political hack who pretends to beer a conservative?

Yes, I ask, because I can actually read and I read his post, your post, and I found yours to be very politically slanted.

DennyT Loc: Central Missouri woods

Trump lies again tweets

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Death Rate PLUNGES From Peak In U.S.” A Tenfold Decrease In Mortality. The Washington Times @WashTimes Valerie Richardson. We have the lowest Mortality Rate in the World. The Fake News should be reporting these most important of facts, but they don’t!
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We are middle of the pack not anywhere near the lowest.


https://coronavirus.jhu.edu/data/mortality


Trump has latched into a number he can brag about to distract from the fact that America has 30 % of the worlds cases, 27%? Of the worlds deaths and only 4% of the world population. Total failure.

DaveO Loc: Northeast CT

You are absolutely correct. I do however take the time to search for interpretations from multiple sources and opposing views before spewing the nonsense that many of the less informed partake in. Because we disagree does not mean either of us are wrong, but carte blanche accepting something simply because it is what we want to hear does not make for sustainment of a sensible or viable position. Repeating rhetoric that is nothing more than basically unfounded party blather is foolish. Refusing to investigate is irresponsible.

Don't confuse my refusal to accept the self aggrandizing rubbish that trump promotes as acceptable conservatism by all Pubs. It appears likely than many of our legislators back him out of the desire for self preservation with less than enthusiastic support. Cabinet members and such already realize the penalty for opposition.

He will self destruct. The true Pubs will survive, but basically due to the failure of Dems to offer viable leadership in many positions. Trump is endangering control of the senate with his performance and we will dearly pay if that occurs. He has proven that he lacks leadership on many fronts.

Having presented my biased views, I will continue to look further than the selective banter typically promoted...by both sides. I hate it when choices have to be made by what I consider to be the lesser of evils.

DaveO Loc: Northeast CT

Really? How about searching for verification on the items themselves.

Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM

Here’s the sequence......

1st post, InfiniteISO:
“Glad you pointed this out. Every set of numbers I've seen published are manipulated to make the US look bad.
Here's the deal: No matter how bad the US numbers seem, their perceived severity has nothing to do with our Federal response. A larger percentage of cases were caused by mishandling at the State level. Last time I checked the Feds didn't insist on seeding COVID cases in nursing homes or running mass transit systems with no mask requirements or sanitation programs.
The truth of the matter is the working population of the US cannot shelter in place until there is a vaccine AND save our economy. As a population, the US was asked to stay at home until we could handle the spread. We did that and now we're going to handle the spread. As a retired person, the OP may not get that. When bread hits $10 a loaf, the OP MAY get that. The demographic that has to worry most about this pandemic can keep their head down, the rest of us need to get back to work.”

2nd post, you to InfiniteISO:
“You may wish to consider checking various news sources to verify your suppositions”

3rd post, me to you:
“Are you questioning the existence of the Cuomo/Murphy death marches into the long term care facilities? Or the fact that NYC did, in fact, open public transportation to the homeless?
Which "news" of his are you questioning the source of?”

4th post, you to me:
“If you need to ask while continuing your political posturing, searching for answers other than the ones you seek to suit your agenda would be a waste of time.”

Now......the 4th post is a clear political statement as it refers to the facts I posted in the 3rd as political posturing. You might not like the reality, but I stated exactly what happened.

Now part II: So, exactly what “searching for verification on the items themselves” is required in this sequence????

DaveO Loc: Northeast CT

Yup, you have all the answers. No need to know anything else. Nothing underlying anywhere. It all must be true.

Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM

I think the more important point is you have no answers, just emotional drivel and hate.

DaveO Loc: Northeast CT

Let it all out and perhaps you will feel better. Be a good little troll.

National Park

That doesn't account for the current surge.

National Park

Ask the doctors and nurses working in the ERs if they think the numbers are skewed.

letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.

I just UCLA medical and the doctors and nurses say that the surge is largely due to the increased testing being conducted on those seeking medical procedures that were not available due to the lock down, also being done on employees returning to work. I took the test Monday and passed because I needed a Colonoscopy ,the young fellow in front of me was there for testing as one of his fellow workers came down with CV19, he said his company insisted that all it's employees be tested before returning to work. Larger number of tests creates longer list of positives, but most of those positives are in a young group that shows no symptoms.

mjmoore17 Loc: Philadelphia, PA area

There is not a physician at UCLA who would tell you that the surge is the result of testing. You are telling an untruth. Maybe you are lying to impress your stupid trump buddies but to anyone who works in the medical field, knows that physicians and nurses, do not have these type discussions with a stranger during work.
As far as young people getting Covid and no symptoms so no problem, most people care about their parents or others parents. These kids just bring it home and pass it to others, even republicans. You are teaching them to follow in your footsteps, only care about themselves and trump.

letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.

Ass, I did not say there was no surge, read the post again, just take off your Troll glasses first.

mjmoore17 Loc: Philadelphia, PA area

And you then tell another lie. I do not know who said anything about the surge. What I said was that you were lying. You did not have a conversation about increase in surge with any physicians or nurses.
To justify your lie, you invented another one. Typical right wing conservatives trained at the feet of trump.

letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.

Like I said ass, I was at the UCLA health care center for 4 hours today and I did speak two two doctors and 4 nurses. You forgot to take your Troll glasses off. Consider the last time I reply to one of your asinine claims. Don't you have to get to a Demonstration, I am sure you attend many as it is a good place to grab a new big screen tv.