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Jul 1, 2020 09:27:45   #
DIRTY HARRY Loc: Hartland, Michigan
 
machia wrote:
This is a serious virus. But when the “protestors” were given a pass on not wearing masks I realized there is something very wrong here. 2020 will be a pivotal year.
Common sense and hypocrisy are on the table.


IO saw LOTS of masks...More than at SOME political rallys.

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Jul 1, 2020 09:28:49   #
DIRTY HARRY Loc: Hartland, Michigan
 
tomad wrote:
After seeing the behavior of a good percentage of Americans during this pandemic so far, I think the title is appropriate. The reader will know if the title is directed at them or not.


Aluminum foil hats

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Jul 1, 2020 09:29:15   #
David Martin Loc: Cary, NC
 
tomad wrote:
After seeing the behavior of a good percentage of Americans during this pandemic so far

After seeing the behavior of a good percentage of Americans during this pandemic so far, the following countries have today closed their borders to us:
Austria, Belgium, Bulgaria, Croatia, Republic of Cyprus, Czech Republic, Denmark, Estonia, Finland, France, Germany, Greece, Hungary, Ireland, Italy, Latvia, Lithuania, Luxembourg, Malta, Netherlands, Poland, Portugal, Romania, Slovakia, Slovenia, Spain, Sweden, Iceland, Norway, Switzerland and Liechtenstein.

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Jul 1, 2020 09:29:48   #
DIRTY HARRY Loc: Hartland, Michigan
 
anotherview wrote:
One remedy involves quarantining the individuals susceptible to the Chinese Wuhan killer virus owing to their medical condition.
Then the rest of us could go on with a normal life. Businesses would not have to close their doors. The Congress would not have to borrow $3 trillion to "fight the virus" and without any plan for reducing this economic burden. Millions of ordinary would not lose their jobs. Fear, panic, hoarding, and overreaction would not happen. We would not hurt ourselves with all these undue actions.
One remedy involves quarantining the individuals s... (show quote)

I rep[eat ...
And your considered opinion is supported by your experience, studies, and credentials from where?

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Jul 1, 2020 09:35:08   #
srt101fan
 
TriX wrote:
This:



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Jul 1, 2020 09:38:17   #
diny
 
Get your facts straight before you tell others what to do...

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Jul 1, 2020 09:43:15   #
tomad Loc: North Carolina
 
Architect1776 wrote:
If it is an issue to you then stay in your basement.
Did you stay home every time the flu or other virus you mentioned flared up?
Did you wear a mask every time?
Those getting sick now I saw on the news are still only the fat, diabetic, old with weak immune systems or some other severe problem and they are barely alive anyway.
Why are these people out in public anyway?
I see more geezers at Walmart and about at all other venues than any other demographic.
What the hell are they doing out on the street, stay home in your basement.
If you are fat, diabetic or otherwise in ill health STAY HOME IN YOUR BASEMENT and t]let the rest of us have normal lives.
Why should your sick ass dictate to a majority of Americans how to suffer.
Yes we might catch the Chinese flu and then we will recover just like any other flu.
I have many friends who had it, got a runny nose and then it was gone. DID NOT DIE.
If it is an issue to you then stay in your basemen... (show quote)


And I'll bet you were one of those who thought "who cares about HIV, it only kills homosexuals" or "who cares about sickle cell anemia, it only kills (I won't use the word you would probably use)". I'm sure you feel this way about any malady that is more likely to affect a class of people that you are not a part of. That is the very definition of selfish, egocentric, self-centered, and narcissistic. Maybe you should go live in your basement with you best friend... yourself. I'm sure you would both be very happy.

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Jul 1, 2020 10:00:22   #
Stash Loc: South Central Massachusetts
 
tomad wrote:



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Jul 1, 2020 10:16:48   #
JeffL Loc: New Jersey
 
As 2.7 million Americans are infected and over 127,000 have died, including friends of mine, how can stupid people keep denying the severity of this virus? It is affecting people of all ages and growing most rapidly among 18-35 year old group who fail to wear masks and social distance. The OP got it right. And, if hospitals get paid to treat the sick, that is why they are there. Nobody is hiding in their basements. They are just being more intelligent and respectful of others than some of the responders to this post.

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Jul 1, 2020 10:18:27   #
drobvit Loc: Southern NV
 
rmalarz wrote:
This seemed to overlook one disturbing aspect. Hospitals are getting money for each Covid 19 diagnosis, more money for hospitalization, more money for each procedure. It seems to make sense that diagnosis are up.

Just google are hospitals getting paid for diagnosing covid 19

Do you think that fact might skew the curve a bit?

Another disturbing aspect is your cell phone is spying on you. Yup, some time in the near past, an app was installed on your phone which can track your movement. It's blatantly called Covid 19.
--Bob
This seemed to overlook one disturbing aspect. Hos... (show quote)


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Jul 1, 2020 10:19:48   #
jwm1944 Loc: Maryland
 
Architect1776 wrote:
If it is an issue to you then stay in your basement.
Did you stay home every time the flu or other virus you mentioned flared up?
Did you wear a mask every time?
Those getting sick now I saw on the news are still only the fat, diabetic, old with weak immune systems or some other severe problem and they are barely alive anyway.
Why are these people out in public anyway?
I see more geezers at Walmart and about at all other venues than any other demographic.
What the hell are they doing out on the street, stay home in your basement.
If you are fat, diabetic or otherwise in ill health STAY HOME IN YOUR BASEMENT and t]let the rest of us have normal lives.
Why should your sick ass dictate to a majority of Americans how to suffer.
Yes we might catch the Chinese flu and then we will recover just like any other flu.
I have many friends who had it, got a runny nose and then it was gone. DID NOT DIE.
If it is an issue to you then stay in your basemen... (show quote)



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Jul 1, 2020 10:49:35   #
Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
 
gsmith051 wrote:
You left out Polio which came back as post polio syndrome.


He also conveniently left out H1N1, which hit over 60,000,000 Americans. Hmmmm.

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Jul 1, 2020 11:02:30   #
Cookie223 Loc: New Jersey
 
berchman wrote:
128,000 dead in four months so far from this hoax. The hoax is working. Trump supporters dying like flies in Western, Southern, and Mid-Western states.


It seems that we cannot have an intelligent conversation, without someone turning into a bias political issue.
Obviously the tens of thousands Democratic supporters, who marched, burned, and looted, without practicing any safety measures is ok with you.

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Jul 1, 2020 11:03:42   #
BobHartung Loc: Bettendorf, IA
 
rmalarz wrote:
This seemed to overlook one disturbing aspect. Hospitals are getting money for each Covid 19 diagnosis, more money for hospitalization, more money for each procedure. It seems to make sense that diagnosis are up.

Just google are hospitals getting paid for diagnosing covid 19

Do you think that fact might skew the curve a bit?

Another disturbing aspect is your cell phone is spying on you. Yup, some time in the near past, an app was installed on your phone which can track your movement. It's blatantly called Covid 19.
--Bob
This seemed to overlook one disturbing aspect. Hos... (show quote)


BS! Hospitals are loosing money by the buckets due to having to cancel all sorts of elective procedures and idling beds "just in case" there is an outbreak. Many healthcare workers have been furloughed and will not be back for a long time. Physicians offices, if open at all, are abe to see only a fraction of the people they could before the safety protocols were placed.

You obviously have self-isolated too long.

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Jul 1, 2020 11:04:00   #
LeeinNC Loc: Morganton, NC
 
berchman wrote:
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"Chicken pox is a virus. Lots of people have had it, and probably don't think about it much once the initial illness has passed. But it stays in your body and lives there forever, and maybe when you're older, you have debilitatingly painful outbreaks of shingles. You don't just get over this virus in a few weeks, never to have another health effect. We know this because it's been around for years, and has been studied medically for years.
Herpes is also a virus. And once someone has it, it stays in your body and lives there forever, and anytime they get a little run down or stressed-out they're going to have an outbreak. Maybe every time you have a big event coming up (school pictures, job interview, big date) you're going to get a cold sore. For the rest of your life. You don't just get over it in a few weeks. We know this because it's been around for years, and been studied medically for years.
HIV is a virus. It attacks the immune system, and makes the carrier far more vulnerable to other illnesses. It has a list of symptoms and negative health impacts that goes on and on. It was decades before viable treatments were developed that allowed people to live with a reasonable quality of life. Once you have it, it lives in your body forever and there is no cure. Over time, that takes a toll on the body, putting people living with HIV at greater risk for health conditions such as cardiovascular disease, kidney disease, diabetes, bone disease, liver disease, cognitive disorders, and some types of cancer. We know this because it has been around for years, and had been studied medically for years.
Now with COVID-19, we have a novel virus that spreads rapidly and easily. The full spectrum of symptoms and health effects is only just beginning to be cataloged, much less understood.
So far the symptoms may include:
Fever
Fatigue
Coughing
Pneumonia
Chills/Trembling
Acute respiratory distress
Lung damage (potentially permanent)
Loss of taste (a neurological symptom)
Sore throat
Headaches
Difficulty breathing
Mental confusion
Diarrhea
Nausea or vomiting
Loss of appetite
Strokes have also been reported in some people who have COVID-19 (even in the relatively young)
Swollen eyes
Blood clots
Seizures
Liver damage
Kidney damage
Rash
COVID toes (weird, right?)
People testing positive for COVID-19 have been documented to be sick even after 60 days. Many people are sick for weeks, get better, and then experience a rapid and sudden flare up and get sick all over again. A man in Seattle was hospitalized for 62 days, and while well enough to be released, still has a long road of recovery ahead of him. Not to mention a $1.1 million medical bill.
Then there is MIS-C. Multisystem inflammatory syndrome in children is a condition where different body parts can become inflamed, including the heart, lungs, kidneys, brain, skin, eyes, or gastrointestinal organs. Children with MIS-C may have a fever and various symptoms, including abdominal pain, vomiting, diarrhea, neck pain, rash, bloodshot eyes, or feeling extra tired. While rare, it has caused deaths.
This disease has not been around for years. It has basically been 6 months. No one knows yet the long-term health effects, or how it may present itself years down the road for people who have been exposed. We literally *do not know* what we do not know.
For those in our society who suggest that people being cautious are cowards, for people who refuse to take even the simplest of precautions to protect themselves and those around them, I want to ask, without hyperbole and in all sincerity:
How dare you?
How dare you risk the lives of others so cavalierly. How dare you decide for others that they should welcome exposure as "getting it over with", when literally no one knows who will be the lucky "mild symptoms" case, and who may fall ill and die. Because while we know that some people are more susceptible to suffering a more serious case, we also know that 20 and 30 year olds have died, marathon runners and fitness nuts have died, children and infants have died.
How dare you behave as though you know more than medical experts, when those same experts acknowledge that there is so much we don't yet know, but with what we DO know, are smart enough to be scared of how easily this is spread, and recommend baseline precautions such as:
Frequent hand-washing
Physical distancing
Reduced social/public contact or interaction
Mask wearing
Covering your cough or sneeze
Avoiding touching your face
Sanitizing frequently touched surfaces
The more things we can all do to mitigate our risk of exposure, the better off we all are, in my opinion. Not only does it flatten the curve and allow health care providers to maintain levels of service that aren't immediately and catastrophically overwhelmed; it also reduces unnecessary suffering and deaths, and buys time for the scientific community to study the virus in order to come to a more full understanding of the breadth of its impacts in both the short and long term.
I reject the notion that it's "just a virus" and we'll all get it eventually. What a careless, lazy, heartless stance."
(Copied) br br "Chicken pox is a virus. Lots... (show quote)


Well put!!!

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