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Jun 28, 2020 13:36:44   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Princess you couldn’t understand if I said, the sun is coming up tomorrow. Don’t feel bad though. It isn’t your fault. You just aren’t using your brain today. Just let us know who has it this week.

You wouldn’t know meaningful and true, let alone relevant, if it bit your butt. Your virtues are ignorance, corruption and lying.

Dennis


Rant on. It’s what you do best.
How many complaints did it take for you to have to get a job as a screw? How many of your “cop buddies” laughed at you?

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Jun 28, 2020 13:44:57   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
SteveR wrote:
Want better teachers? Pay better. Want better cops? Pay better. You know the old saying, "you get what you pay for."


That’s not nearly the whole story, but there is a lot of truth to it.

If you pay for McDonalds, you have to eat McDonalds.

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Jun 28, 2020 13:49:26   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
thom w wrote:
Something is either missing or wrong with your narrative. I’ve never worked on a Dodge Cummins, but I’ve worked on plenty of generators using a very similar engine. I’ve seen several quit running from air in the filter/Separator, and I’ve yet to see this damage anything. This generally only happens in installations without a lift pump. Don’t doubt your story, just believe something got lost in the telling.


I watched it happen, the engine needed replacing. Maybe something is missing but Lube and Tune replaced the engine. I just checked with my friend, he says it was Hydro locked, not air locked or vapor locked. I worked many years ago on the No Break generators at Warner Robins AFB. It was in the 60s and a 5000 lb fly wheel was kept spinning by a large Motor/ Generator , when power failed a clutch would engage and start the Diesel which now powered the facility almost instantly, barley a flicker.

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Jun 28, 2020 14:00:08   #
thom w Loc: San Jose, CA
 
letmedance wrote:
I watched it happen, the engine needed replacing. Maybe something is missing but Lube and Tune replaced the engine. I worked many years ago on the No Break generators at Warner Robins AFB. It was in the 60s and a 5000 lb fly wheel was kept spinning by a large Motor/ Generator , when power failed a clutch would engage and start the Diesel which now powered the facility almost instantly, barley a flicker.


I never accused you of making it up, I only said something is missing. I probably shouldn’t of even posted concerning it, but those sort of things really intrigue me.
What you described is a type of rotary UPS. The ones I’ve been around are very noisy, even when not running on diesel. Their main advantage is that they don’t need large banks of batteries.

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Jun 28, 2020 14:07:39   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
thom w wrote:
I never accused you of making it up, I only said something is missing. I probably shouldn’t of even posted concerning it, but those sort of things really intrigue me.
What you described is a type of rotary UPS. The ones I’ve been around are very noisy, even when not running on diesel. Their main advantage is that they don’t need large banks of batteries.


No thom I was not even suggesting that you accused me of anything. You will see that after your comment I called my friend tom and he says it was Hydolock and it happened at freeway speed totally destroying the engine. The replacements costs were around 25 thousand, that Cummings is a strong, quiet engine, one of the best.

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Jun 28, 2020 14:24:55   #
Dannj
 
SteveR wrote:
Want better teachers? Pay better. Want better cops? Pay better. You know the old saying, "you get what you pay for."


This may be true when applied to things but when applied to people it doesn’t ensure quality. Some people choose a job only because of the money. It doesn’t mean they’ll be good at it. There are also people who choose a job in spite of the money and are very good at the job.

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Jun 29, 2020 10:27:44   #
Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
 
SteveR wrote:
Want better teachers? Pay better. Want better cops? Pay better. You know the old saying, "you get what you pay for."



So answer this.....exactly what will an existing teacher do better if we double their salary??????? Same for cops.

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Jun 29, 2020 11:24:22   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Cykdelic wrote:
So answer this.....exactly what will an existing teacher do better if we double their salary??????? Same for cops.


And the teachers in Chicago will STILL go on strike for even more money.

Dennis

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Jun 29, 2020 13:25:33   #
Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
 
dennis2146 wrote:
And the teachers in Chicago will STILL go on strike for even more money.

Dennis


Absolutely!

Under the most recent contract, the district’s base salary for a new teacher with a bachelor’s degree is just under $53,000. The maximum salary a teacher can earn in CPS after years of experience and with higher credentials is a little more than $101,000. That’s before the value of required annual pension contributions the district makes on a teacher’s behalf.


Data from teacher salary schedules compiled by the National Council on Teacher Quality shows Chicago ranks 22nd among the nation’s 124 largest districts for starting salary. Its ranking third on the list for teachers with more years of experience and higher degrees.

Lightfoot has offered to increase this by 16% over five years and they are most likely going to go on strike.

For the children, of course!

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Jun 29, 2020 14:08:46   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Cykdelic wrote:
Absolutely!

Under the most recent contract, the district’s base salary for a new teacher with a bachelor’s degree is just under $53,000. The maximum salary a teacher can earn in CPS after years of experience and with higher credentials is a little more than $101,000. That’s before the value of required annual pension contributions the district makes on a teacher’s behalf.


Data from teacher salary schedules compiled by the National Council on Teacher Quality shows Chicago ranks 22nd among the nation’s 124 largest districts for starting salary. Its ranking third on the list for teachers with more years of experience and higher degrees.

Lightfoot has offered to increase this by 16% over five years and they are most likely going to go on strike.

For the children, of course!
Absolutely! br br Under the most recent contract,... (show quote)


I am glad you added, for the children. Whenever anything comes up for a vote regarding schools it is ALWAYS for the children. Yet I believe that most of the money voters vote For the children never reaches the children at all. It is just one more catchy phrase to make people feel guilty about voting NO on such things.

Dennis

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Jun 29, 2020 18:34:42   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
dennis2146 wrote:
As I recall the teachers in Chicago are the highest paid teachers in America or were a couple of years ago. And yet in a year or so they will be on strike asking for yet more money. I know about teachers since numerous people in my family are/were teachers. I love teachers and since I was also LEO I know what officers are paid. But it is not necessarily the money. Many people go into teaching because of the money in let's say the Chicago area and are getting well paid but are not necessarily the best teachers.

One thing that can be done is to rid ourselves of the huge unions that control the teachers and much else in America. At one time they were useful and needed. These days not so much. Also get rid of the system where teachers can reach a level to where they cannot be fired.

Dennis
As I recall the teachers in Chicago are the highes... (show quote)


Sure, you have instances like Chicago where salaries are jacked up for the same type of performance. That's what you get for giving in to unions. GM found out about that. Texas, however, is a right to work state. As a result there is no collective bargaining and teacher salaries are lower. Try raising a family making 50+K. The result is that you will draw from a limited pool. Pay more and you'll be able to draw from a larger pool, which would mean better qualified individuals. We had great teachers in my schools and I know they didn't make much, but I do know that it was enough for one salary to take care of a family, since my Dad did it. Paid a house mortgage, put food on the table and clothes on our back, and my Mom stayed home.

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Jun 30, 2020 01:40:34   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
SteveR wrote:
Sure, you have instances like Chicago where salaries are jacked up for the same type of performance. That's what you get for giving in to unions. GM found out about that. Texas, however, is a right to work state. As a result there is no collective bargaining and teacher salaries are lower. Try raising a family making 50+K. The result is that you will draw from a limited pool. Pay more and you'll be able to draw from a larger pool, which would mean better qualified individuals. We had great teachers in my schools and I know they didn't make much, but I do know that it was enough for one salary to take care of a family, since my Dad did it. Paid a house mortgage, put food on the table and clothes on our back, and my Mom stayed home.
Sure, you have instances like Chicago where salari... (show quote)


You are correct. My mom was a teacher/principal for years in a two room school house. Father was an instructor in a maximum state prison, Greenhaven, in NYS. Ex wife is a teacher. I can’t ever remember when the teachers in my family did not shell money out of their own pocket to help kids who did not have money for basic school supplies. They also stayed after school to help kids and then stayed up til late hours to grade papers and/or work on lesson plans. No teacher I ever met worked a typical 8-5 job.

Dennis

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Jun 30, 2020 10:33:29   #
Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
 
SteveR wrote:
Sure, you have instances like Chicago where salaries are jacked up for the same type of performance. That's what you get for giving in to unions. GM found out about that. Texas, however, is a right to work state. As a result there is no collective bargaining and teacher salaries are lower. Try raising a family making 50+K. The result is that you will draw from a limited pool. Pay more and you'll be able to draw from a larger pool, which would mean better qualified individuals. We had great teachers in my schools and I know they didn't make much, but I do know that it was enough for one salary to take care of a family, since my Dad did it. Paid a house mortgage, put food on the table and clothes on our back, and my Mom stayed home.
Sure, you have instances like Chicago where salari... (show quote)



The following data points from salary.com are interesting.....given the cost of living in Dallas is close to 10% lower than Chicago, the teacher salaries line up pretty good!

How much does a Public School Teacher make in Dallas, TX?The average Public School Teacher salary in Dallas, TX is $57,529 as of May 28, 2020, but the range typically falls between $50,220 and $66,412. Salary ranges can vary widely depending on many important factors, including education, certifications, additional skills, the number of years you have spent in your profession.


How much does a Public School Teacher make in Chicago, IL?The average Public School Teacher salary in Chicago, IL is $61,575 as of May 28, 2020, but the range typically falls between $53,752 and $71,083. Salary ranges can vary widely depending on many important factors, including education, certifications, additional skills, the number of years you have spent in your profession.We

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Jun 30, 2020 15:02:15   #
SteveR Loc: Michigan
 
Cykdelic wrote:
The following data points from salary.com are interesting.....given the cost of living in Dallas is close to 10% lower than Chicago, the teacher salaries line up pretty good!

How much does a Public School Teacher make in Dallas, TX?The average Public School Teacher salary in Dallas, TX is $57,529 as of May 28, 2020, but the range typically falls between $50,220 and $66,412. Salary ranges can vary widely depending on many important factors, including education, certifications, additional skills, the number of years you have spent in your profession.


How much does a Public School Teacher make in Chicago, IL?The average Public School Teacher salary in Chicago, IL is $61,575 as of May 28, 2020, but the range typically falls between $53,752 and $71,083. Salary ranges can vary widely depending on many important factors, including education, certifications, additional skills, the number of years you have spent in your profession.We
The following data points from salary.com are inte... (show quote)


The difference comes in health insurance. Chicago teachers have BCBS PPO with a $600 individual deductible and a $2700 maximum out of pocket. One of my daughters is a Dallas ISD teacher and its insurance is not good (she recently had to change doctors because they dropped a major hospital from its plan) and she pays through the nose to cover herself and her kids. Some employees would rather have excellent health insurance than a higher wage. That appears to be the case in Chicago. For one thing, you don't pay income tax on health insurance and other benefits.

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Jun 30, 2020 16:50:05   #
Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
 
SteveR wrote:
The difference comes in health insurance. Chicago teachers have BCBS PPO with a $600 individual deductible and a $2700 maximum out of pocket. One of my daughters is a Dallas ISD teacher and its insurance is not good (she recently had to change doctors because they dropped a major hospital from its plan) and she pays through the nose to cover herself and her kids. Some employees would rather have excellent health insurance than a higher wage. That appears to be the case in Chicago. For one thing, you don't pay income tax on health insurance and other benefits.
The difference comes in health insurance. Chicago... (show quote)


Hopefully this posts correctly.....it’s the benefits for teachers in both cities....

Dallas:
Base Salary $57,529 70.4%
Bonus $0 0.0%
Value of Benefits


Median % of Total
Social Security $4,401 5.4%
401K/403B $2,819 3.4%
Disability $920 1.1%
Healthcare $6,371 7.8%
Pension $2,416 3.0%
Time Off $7,302 8.9%
Total Compensation $81,759 100%

Chicago:
Core Compensation
Median % of Total
Base Salary $61,575 70.7%
Bonus $0 0.0%
Value of Benefits


Median % of Total
Social Security $4,711 5.4%
401K/403B $3,017 3.5%
Disability $985 1.1%
Healthcare $6,371 7.3%
Pension $2,586 3.0%
Time Off $7,815 9.0%
Total Compensation $87,061 100%

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