Diocletian

whoops. fury makes me careless

Diocletian

Probably when we get past systemic discrimination.

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

Because the democrats since the war have fought tooth and nail against racial equality.
Forming the KKK, Affirmative Action telling blacks they are too stupid to compete, Putting as many as possible on the government plantation of welfare and dependency because they are too stupid to make it on their own unless they have the government running their lives.
All this the democrats have worked hard to keep blacks as racially inferior in order to have a dependency class needing government help and that only democrats will keep the welfare gravy train coming as long as the blacks stay on the reservation and vote democrat as paid to do.

Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan

What got lost in the translation was this question to ask yourself after absorbing the facts:

Apparently hundreds of thousands of white people were killed over ending the practice of slavery in this country. Does this sound to you like most people in America are racist and America still maintains a racist system in our country? All this fighting and dying was just for fun?

I maintain that racism was beat back so bad that even a black man was elected President, twice.

Fotoartist Loc: Detroit, Michigan

Detroit was the fourth or fifth largest U.S. city in the 50s. I have heard it was called the Paris of the Midwest.

The 1967 Detroit riots sparked a middle class flight to the suburbs. They call it white flight but I think anyone who could afford to moved for security purposes. People want law and order.

skylane5sp Loc: Puyallup, WA

DEMOCRATS. The same thing that has happened to a lot of great cities.

Diocletian

and if you put your hands over your ears and humm loudly so you can’t hear - the blacks screaming with the agony of losing their family members to unwarranted police brutality

And if you close your eyes so you can’t see the blood in the streets - from black people being casually shot and killed by unwarrented police brutality

Then you can live in the white man’s fairy tale land where he’s the only one who is entitled

Oh wait, that is your reality and everybody else should suck it up because you don’t hear or see any discrimination..... therefore it doesn’t exist

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

I thought the god obummer eliminated discrimination?
Yeah right!

Texcaster Loc: Queensland

Even you must admit that Obama's plate was overflowing with an out of control 'brither channel' and mending the economy.

scooter1 Loc: Yacolt, Wa.

President Trump, even with your colorful little name calling, will be re-elected. Take that to the bank. All of you liberals seem to forget all the good he has done for the economy and country. He could resurrect god himself and you would talk shit about him.

scooter1 Loc: Yacolt, Wa.

Why, in your 'racist' post did you not speak of the white man? White family's "screaming with the agony of losing their family members to unwarranted police brutality". RACIST!!

scooter1 Loc: Yacolt, Wa.

The whole west coast!

scooter1 Loc: Yacolt, Wa.

And he and his wife fanned the flames to incite discontent and set us back 50 years in racism.

papakatz45 Loc: South Florida-West Palm Beach

Run by democrats.

Tex-s

I'll skip the low hanging fruit expose' asking what Lincoln would say about many other social discussions and stick to the one posed.

You folks are aware, I would hope, that slavery in America was not outside the norm worldwide, and that America was far nearer the first than the last to abolish the practice. I'd also point out that the word 'slave' is derives from the word Slav, a people (Caucasian) so routinely enslaved in the past that the word for 'slave' includes the root 'Slav' in about a dozen languages. America's 'original sin' was thousands of years from original. Just like the roulette wheel goes alternately red/black with a green once every spin, those enslaved by others has gone round and round through history, if you look at all of history and all of the globe. Virtually no group has escaped defeat and the chains that went with defeat.

In no way do I condone slavery, but to deny the past its context is to deny history its meaning and its relevance. Without context, Harriet Tubman was a tour guide. Without context, Rosa Parks was just an agitator who deliberately broke rules. Without context, Jim Jones a great motivator.

However, context also illuminates the fact that social and national norms evolve. Just in the last couple of decades, the once REALLY common habit of smoking has diminished greatly. Inter-racial marriage is not only legal, but commonplace, and women legally vote, hold office and own property. For us to apply our modern norms, ignoring the context of the norms in the past, to judge the actions of those 200+ years ago is just as absurd as asking those from 200+ years ago to pass judgement on, say, abortion, pornographic movies, transgenderism, or gay marriage.

Yes, Jefferson and Washington engaged in practices we now deem abhorrent, but they did help to devise the freest society for the individual ever created. Unlike some on the left, I consider the free society achievement not only a positive, but a positive that proves these men and the other Founders actually deserve to have their achievements honored despite their sins. If we don't even have a shared love of liberty, we may as well ask what Stalin would say or what Mao would say.

If you truly think that police or the nebulous 'systemic racism' are hurting the black population in America more than black Americans are hurting themselves (habits, choices, single mom births) or each other (black on black violence) you might consider listening to half a dozen talks from Thomas Sowell on YouTube. There is quite a lot to unpack about the long term effects of leftist policy that effectively suggest that success or failure within the black community is determined mostly or solely by how much is 'given to' the black community 'by the' white community. Deeming any group dependent upon another is, by definition, elitist, and if the groups are denoted by race, also racist.