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Jun 13, 2020 14:59:11   #
Sark17 Loc: Atlanta, GA
 
Thank you! Will do! Guess I hijacked my buddy’s question but he had it answered a few messages ago and just bought a new camera. So now it’s my turn 😂 thank you!


CHG_CANON wrote:
I looked at some of you work from safari. Not all the images where stored with the EXIF data. You might be better served starting a separate discussion on (a) low-light technique and (b) high ISO processing. Your observation about the same sensor is spot on, the 1 to 1 results should be similar, if not indistinguishable between the cameras. I did a sort by ISO in my LR catalog for comparables, but I don't have anything in 2019 / 2020 that really matches based on light and distance looking at your results. You might consider another separate thread based on your dog running results where AF tuning ideas (or limitations) specific to the EOS R might be discussed.
I looked at some of you work from safari. Not all ... (show quote)

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Jun 13, 2020 15:11:54   #
Zooman 1
 
I like my R. I use it for most of my nature photography, but have been shifting towards the M50 mainly for the weight difference. I also have the 7DMII, which right now is getting repaired. Found it was not good to drop it on the floor of my car, just a slight bump but somehow the LCD was broken to where it would flicker constantly. I have given up small bird flight photos, just too old to follow their flight patterns. Also, still have the 80D, which once the 7DMII is back will be putting it up for sale, with a lens and battery grip. Have enjoyed this thread. Lots of good feed back. And no politics!

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Jun 13, 2020 15:56:04   #
Gpaw47 Loc: Denver, Colorado
 
I have been photographing with a Canon 80D for about 4 years, mainly birds in flight, and got the itch to upgrade. I ordered a Canon 90D from B&H and used it for about a month. I had nothing but problems with getting focus on birds in flight. Did all kinds of changes to the custom settings, but didn’t help. I went to the Canon 90D Facebook page and there were countless postings of people having problems with focusing on birds in flight. I returned the 90D to B&H and order the 5D MKIV. I have been using the MK IV for about 2 weeks now and LOVE this camera.

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Jun 13, 2020 15:57:24   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
Few people realize that 100% of luck is created by a full-frame sensor.

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Jun 13, 2020 16:09:42   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
Sark17 wrote:
Here’s a question I don’t really understand. If the EOS R and the 5D Mark IV are relatively similar aside from the obvious DSLR/Mirrorless, why is the 5D so much more capable in low light?

They have the same megapixels and same ISO capability, so I don’t understand why the 5D would be so much better? What am I missing?


Are you shooting raw or JPEG ? - If JPEG, what kind of profile settings are you using ?? I have found it best if shooting JPEG to keep all the profile settings zeroed out to allow for tuning in PP and allowing the camera to process only very minimally.
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Jun 13, 2020 16:10:47   #
Gpaw47 Loc: Denver, Colorado
 
I only shoot in Raw.

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Jun 13, 2020 16:11:30   #
Sark17 Loc: Atlanta, GA
 
I’m shooting RAW+ JPEG.

imagemeister wrote:
Are you shooting raw or JPEG ? - If JPEG, what kind of profile settings are you using ?? I have found it best if shooting JPEG to keep all the profile settings zeroed out to allow for tuning in PP and allowing the camera to process only very minimally.
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Jun 13, 2020 16:15:33   #
wdross Loc: Castle Rock, Colorado
 
Sark17 wrote:
Thank you for this. It’s also good to hear the 1DXII is as good as you say it is! I just can’t justify a 7k camera with the 1Dx III to take dog photos 90% of the time, but what I DO want is something that works well. This is just getting frustrating that the EOS R is just incredibly noisy in the slightest shade. I expose to the right as much as I can, but my lighting situations usually cause a flat histogram and I just have to deal with it or I’d blow out all of the highlights. I’d prefer CLEAR images where the subject isn’t smoothed out too much due to constant “denoising”.

I LOVE the EOS R in daytime. But with this lower light noise, the pretty bad tracking, and the autofocus that is lightening fast on the first frame, but can’t keep up, is just not what I thought I was getting with this camera.

I’ve got the Tamron 150-600 G2
Canon 70-200 F/2.8 USM III
Canon RF 24-105
Canon 2.8L 100mm macro
Just to name a few, and the results are consistent with all of them. I think I am close to making a jump to either the 5D mark IV or the IDX as a second body to eventually sell my EOS R, but it’s a really tough decision because in comparisons; the 5D mark IV vs the EOS R are basically the same in most categories, which makes me lean towards and IDX OR, wait until the new mirrorless comes out. Tough decisions, but when all I really want to do is wander around and photograph things, it’s discouraging to have to deal with so much noise.
Thank you for this. It’s also good to hear the 1DX... (show quote)


I think you would do well with the newer 1DX series. Even though I shoot Olympus now, I have shot with Canon at one time. It is a good system and I suspect that the larger pixel size on the 1DX might help solve the noise problem you are seeing. If you are not making a lot of larger than 30X40 prints, it probably will sever you well. I know my 20MP Olympus E-M1 mkII serves me very well and it would have more problems with noise than the 1DX series would. As worst case, rent a 1DX and put it to the test of your photography.

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Jun 13, 2020 16:16:54   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
Sark17 wrote:
I’m shooting RAW+ JPEG.


IMO, shooting any form of raw can slow your camera down - including AF ..... but especially BOTH ! - again, just my experienced, studied and logical OPINION.
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Jun 13, 2020 16:19:00   #
Sark17 Loc: Atlanta, GA
 
I was leaning that way, but dang that thing is heavy! I do a lot of walking and I imagine I’d feel an additional 3lbs, but if it’s that much better (and I imagine it is!), I’ll just have to lift more weights!

wdross wrote:
I think you would do well with the newer 1DX series. Even though I shoot Olympus now, I have shot with Canon at one time. It is a good system and I suspect that the larger pixel size on the 1DX might help solve the noise problem you are seeing. If you are not making a lot of larger than 30X40 prints, it probably will sever you well. I know my 20MP Olympus E-M1 mkII serves me very well and it would have more problems with noise than the 1DX series would. As worst case, rent a 1DX and put it to the test of your photography.
I think you would do well with the newer 1DX serie... (show quote)

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Jun 13, 2020 16:22:03   #
Sark17 Loc: Atlanta, GA
 
Well maybe that’s the issue! That’s certainly an easy fix!! Thank you!

imagemeister wrote:
IMO, shooting any form of raw can slow your camera down - including AF ..... but especially BOTH ! - again, just my experienced, studied and logical OPINION.
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Jun 13, 2020 16:22:38   #
Sark17 Loc: Atlanta, GA
 
Have you used it in low light and/or for tracking yet?

Gpaw47 wrote:
I have been photographing with a Canon 80D for about 4 years, mainly birds in flight, and got the itch to upgrade. I ordered a Canon 90D from B&H and used it for about a month. I had nothing but problems with getting focus on birds in flight. Did all kinds of changes to the custom settings, but didn’t help. I went to the Canon 90D Facebook page and there were countless postings of people having problems with focusing on birds in flight. I returned the 90D to B&H and order the 5D MKIV. I have been using the MK IV for about 2 weeks now and LOVE this camera.
I have been photographing with a Canon 80D for abo... (show quote)

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Jun 13, 2020 16:27:13   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
imagemeister wrote:
IMO, shooting any form of raw can slow your camera down - including AF ..... but especially BOTH ! - again, just my experienced, studied and logical OPINION.
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Larry, the image storage format has nothing to do with the Auto Focus of the camera .... Burst speed, yes to maybe, depending on a host of specifics to the camera and the card speed(s) and the shooting situation, can be impacted by RAW vs JPEG vs RAW+JPEG, but never the auto focus capabilities.

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Jun 13, 2020 16:27:24   #
Gpaw47 Loc: Denver, Colorado
 
Not much in low light yet, only have had it for 2 weeks. I went to a Radio Controlled airplane show and it tracked the airplanes real well. I use the Tamron 150-600 G2 for wildlife and birds in flight. The 5D MK IV also works well with the 1.4 teleconverter for wildlife. It does make the tracking a little more hit and miss with the teleconverter.

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Jun 13, 2020 16:29:23   #
imagemeister Loc: mid east Florida
 
Sark17 wrote:
Have you used it in low light and/or for tracking yet?


80D, 400 prime, hand held - I am very impressed with the 80D ! in all light ...
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