Grim 2 million milestone of American Covid-19 cases.
Jun 12, 2020 13:20:50 #
Fotoartist wrote:
In the U.S. "the greater good" as you de... (show quote)
Bloody well said,............now if we can only keep it that way!
Jun 12, 2020 13:22:21 #
ChazT wrote:
Not picking a side. Just answering your questions.... (show quote)
Well said, and on the topic of leading by example, Trump is a miserable failure. Who does he inspire, except those who would follow him anywhere anyway? Fortunately that number will be nowhere near what it once was in November. Want to know what real leadership is in a crisis? I'm reading Erik Larson's book about Churchill during the blitz. That's inspiring. Trump is just embarrassing.
Jun 12, 2020 13:41:30 #
ChazT
Loc: Florida
Fotoartist wrote:
In the U.S. "the greater good" as you de... (show quote)
I believe you can be a patriot and not care for the person in charge. That’s why we vote. If you supported President Obama you are indeed a patriot, otherwise a bigot.
Jun 12, 2020 13:48:39 #
braindamage wrote:
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/american-fiasco-us-hits-grim-033029848.html
In 2017 the US had 45,000,000 flu cases. 2,000,000 doesn't seem that bad.
Jun 12, 2020 13:54:20 #
ChazT
Loc: Florida
Overthehill1 wrote:
Well said, and on the topic of leading by example, Trump is a miserable failure. Who does he inspire, except those who would follow him anywhere anyway? Fortunately that number will be nowhere near what it once was in November. Want to know what real leadership is in a crisis? I'm reading Erik Larson's book about Churchill during the blitz. That's inspiring. Trump is just embarrassing.
When you think of a person leading by example there are few, if any, better than Winston Churchill.
Jun 12, 2020 14:07:30 #
braindamage wrote:
https://uk.yahoo.com/news/american-fiasco-us-hits-grim-033029848.html
Who really cares about the number of cases!? It is the number of deaths that is of concern.
bwa
Jun 12, 2020 14:10:53 #
Retired CPO wrote:
How has PRESIDENT Trump failed? Has he failed to develop a vaccine? I thought the doctors were supposed to do that. Has he failed to bring the economy back from the brink? Look at the stock reports.
People are dying? Every one who has been born will die. PRESIDENT Trump is supposed to stop that?
Get a grip!
People are dying? Every one who has been born will die. PRESIDENT Trump is supposed to stop that?
Get a grip!
Keep drinking the tRumpade
Jun 12, 2020 14:32:39 #
Overthehill1 wrote:
Well said, and on the topic of leading by example, Trump is a miserable failure. Who does he inspire, except those who would follow him anywhere anyway? Fortunately that number will be nowhere near what it once was in November. Want to know what real leadership is in a crisis? I'm reading Erik Larson's book about Churchill during the blitz. That's inspiring. Trump is just embarrassing.
How can you even mention Trump and Churchill in the same paragraph? Winston must be flipping in his grave!?
bwa
Jun 12, 2020 14:42:47 #
2Dragons wrote:
Bloody well said,............now if we can only keep it that way!
Franklin said something like that.....
Jun 12, 2020 15:12:27 #
Paul Diamond wrote:
What you are really saying is that you and we won't know how many cases until some time in the future. It may be far in the future. Covid hasn't gone away. And the experts at the CDC are expecting a dramatic rise in cases as we come to the Fall-Winter seasons.
The accounting for any epidemic/pandemic never happens until sometime after the events have passed. COVID-19, including MERS and SARS, Influenza (all types), even Polio, are at best estimated. As I mentioned UC Berkley and Stanford used extrapolation to come up with their estimated counts.
Right now, 100 years after the 1918 pandemic, no one knows just how many cases or deaths happened. Scientists don't even know where it started, or even if it was/wasn't dormant prior to the break out. Estimates of deaths remain between 50 million and 100 million. Take a number like that to your boss for some other use, and find out what he'd do. We like to think we have a technology advantage, but everything reported is a statistical estimation. No one ever had a real handle on Polio. Yes, two vaccines developed, but there's also a body of evidence that herd and social immunity would have decimated the virus anyway.
There's been a huge demand for testing, but to what extent? Okay, you've tested folks. What then? You can't do anything but prepare reports. Those aren't good for anything but moot debates. The event is in the past, and will never be repeated. We're not in a closed system. Too much opportunity for viruses to get away from any type of control. We live in an open environmental system.
The point on which I would disagree with you, is about the forecast by CDC. Prior epidemics of COVID-type outbreaks have been one, then nearly done. Influenza is another beast all together.
Jun 12, 2020 15:31:39 #
hj
Loc: Florida
Retired CPO wrote:
Worry about the UK. We will worry about the U.S. Not interested in your anti Trump rhetoric.
Jun 12, 2020 15:32:57 #
hj
Loc: Florida
Stan W. wrote:
Yes, because there is so much pro trump rhetoric these days. LMAO.
Not when you're a democrat watching only the liberal/fake news channels.
Jun 12, 2020 15:49:32 #
ChazT
Loc: Florida
hj wrote:
Not when you're a democrat watching only the liberal/fake news channels.
What news channels do you consider legitimate?
Jun 12, 2020 15:56:46 #
ChazT wrote:
What news channels do you consider legitimate?
BBC.....
Jun 12, 2020 16:09:55 #
ChazT
Loc: Florida
Longshadow wrote:
BBC.....
Interesting. Seems to be in-line with most networks. I will be sure to pay more attention to BBC for an unbiased view.
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