Phones vs DSLR (Page 9): All probably were wide angle shots since phones don't normally have telephoto lens. Nothing wrong will cell phone shots but a dedicated flash will illuminate...

tjw47 Loc: Michigan

All probably were wide angle shots since phones don't normally have telephoto lens.

Nothing wrong will cell phone shots but a dedicated flash will illuminate much better than the puny flash on a cell phone.

As far as image quality, a cell phone can't compare to a professional grade digital camera.

hcmcdole

DirtFarmer wrote:

Just got a new wife a couple years ago. She was Ap... (show quote)

We had that problem years ago when we were both Apple and our daughter too (she was on the family plan). When I switched to Samsung at the next upgrade cycle, the texts between us were very slow. I found out that Apple keeps their own internal database of iPhone users on Apple's servers and does the texting between users (bypassing the phone company once the messages leave their servers). They made the bad assumption that once an iPhone user, always an iPhone user. I cannot remember how this was resolved - we had to contact Apple or our phone provider to get texting up to speed (i.e get my name/number removed from Apple World). Then a couple more years go by and our daughter moves to Samsung and we repeat the same process. GRRRR! Shame on Apple?

berchman Loc: South Central PA

DirtFarmer wrote:

Well, it seems that everyone has an opinion here so here's mine.

Cell phones have cameras. They work if the light is good. The best camera is the one you have in your hand.

I went to Italy last year. Did not take my DSLR, but had my iPhone. Took lots of pictures.
Got some pretty good ones looking at the scenery. Indoor photos left a LOT to be desired, even when using the "flash".

My wife took some shots of the flowers in our garden this spring. I took some with my DSLR. She got some nice shots but I got some better ones. They are better because they don't have jpg artifacts and my shots have more pixels so they can be blown up more. Of course, neither of them is an award wining photo but they aren't used that way. They are getting sent to the family via the iPhone and viewed on the tiny iPhone screen. Rarely are they expanded on the screen to look at details.

My iPhone will take shots in low light. They are noisy, washed out, and unsharp. My DSLR does a much better job there. Larger sensor, lower noise.

My iPhone will take panoramas. They sometimes look pretty good but there are examples of really comical results. I saw one online of a panorama taken in the direction a cat was walking. The cat wound up about 6 feet long and had 10 legs. My DSLR will take panoramas, but by using individual shots, combined in software after the fact. I wouldn't be surprised if I could obtain a photo of a 6 foot 10 legged cat with my DSLR, but at least I can control things in the individual shots before I combine them. Sometimes even after I combine them.

My iPhone will take videos. My DSLR will take videos also, but I have yet to master that, since the iPhone keeps focus much better than my DSLR. It could easily be my DSLR video technique, or lack thereof.

So will the phone replace my DSLR? The answer is "it depends".
It depends on the end use of the photo.
It depends on the lighting or lack thereof.
It depends on who is viewing the photo, and on what medium.
Both instruments have their unique strengths and weaknesses.

PS: My stepdaughter just got her MBA, so I got her a D7500 to replace the graduation that didn't physically happen. She has been using an iPhone for many years now. We will see what comes of it.

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You don't say what model of iPhone you use, but I'm guessing it's not the iPhone 11 Pro. See what it does in low light.

DirtFarmer Loc: Escaped from the NYC area, back to MA

berchman wrote:

You don't say what model of iPhone you use, but I'm guessing it's not the iPhone 11 Pro. See what it does in low light.

No, I'm working with an 8+.

How about posting an example?

FotoHog Loc: on Cloud 9

burkphoto wrote:

What’s funny is when they think you’re attacking them and you didn’t read their post, or even have them in mind!

People read all kinds of things into what we say, even if we were saying something completely different to no one in particular. It’s the nature of this medium.

It is especially true in this medium where tone of voice, body language, gestures, facial expressions, and everything that is an important part of verbal communication is absent.

al13

The great thing aboutMy iPhone is it’s always on me. I take my Fuji if on a trip but not when going to the grocery Store.I take mFuji if going for a causal stroll. Which I can’t do yet due to stroke

berchman Loc: South Central PA

DirtFarmer wrote:

No, I'm working with an 8+.

How about posting an example?

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chrisg-optical Loc: New York, NY

ga6742 wrote:

It's mid 2020. Are our expensive dslr's going to become worthless? I just saw a full set of graduation photos that were excellent all taken with a phone. These phones can do 95% (my guess) of dslr functions. That along with post processing that does a complete photo makeover seems to be shrinking the dslr into oblivion. Is this the passing of an era?

The each have their purpose. I would also add MILCs to the DSLR side since it's really Smartphone Cameras VS ILCs (DSLRs + MILCs). The Smartphone camera is great for quick snapshots since most of us don't walk around with our ILCs all of the time. Another reason the P/S market was KILLED OFF.

For almost anything pre-meditated photographically speaking I will use my DSLR (and eventually a mirrorless camera). For quickies the Smartphone is always there - documentation, family shots, on the spot pics, etc. Documentation wise - receipts, some checks, legal stuff, ads, bar codes, serial number capture, etc.

It's amazing the progress that has been made in smartphone camera technology and how they can pack such amazing capabilities in a tiny package. However, that is also one of the drawbacks of smartphone cameras - ergonomics.

selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA

al13 wrote:

The great thing aboutMy iPhone is it’s always on me. I take my Fuji if on a trip but not when going to the grocery Store.I take mFuji if going for a causal stroll. Which I can’t do yet due to stroke

Here is an example from a Fuji X100T. It's almost as convenient as an iPhone. It's about the same height and width but 3" deep as opposed to ½" for the cell phone. It has an APS-C sensor (1.5x crop instead of 7x crop for the cell phone) and produces a 16MP 14-bit raw file instead of the 12MP 12-bit file from the iPhone. It has a fixed 35mm equivalent field of view as opposed to the 28mm in my iPhone 8 and weighs 465 grams compared to 187 for the iPhone 8. The controls are on the outside, not buried in menus, manual settings are easier. It's easier to hold.

The scene was low contrast so exposure was not critical.

X100T: Overcast and misty day, developed in Capture One 20

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iPhone 8: SOOC on full Auto, misty rain had stopped

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BebuLamar

Shot this puppy with the IPhone 11. A bit of cropping and pin cushion correction in PS.

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dragonlady9947

I have an iPhone XS Max and 2 Canon DSLR cameras. If I am desperate and don’t have a camera with me, I will take a snapshot with my phone. But I don’t like phone pictures very much-good for selfies I think. Just can’t manipulate the phone to get what I want. I just can’t do on my phone what I can do with my camera and lenses. I know some people seem to take great phone shots but not me. I doubt phones will overtake DSLRs. My opinion anyway.

gouldopfl

Phone cameras have gotten better over the years, but if you look at the Samsung S20 G5 Ultimate it claims 108 MP but when I look at file sizes they are about 12 MP. The files from my DSLR are 30.2 mp.

Ultimately a phone is nice for those moments when you don't have your camera. I used to carry a Canon pocket camera but no longer need.

FotoHog Loc: on Cloud 9

gouldopfl wrote:

Phone cameras have gotten better over the years, but if you look at the Samsung S20 G5 Ultimate it claims 108 MP but when I look at file sizes they are about 12 MP. The files from my DSLR are 30.2 mp.

Ultimately a phone is nice for those moments when you don't have your camera. I used to carry a Canon pocket camera but no longer need.

A cell phone camera is great for recording somethning to be shown to CNN. . . .

Uuglypher Loc: South Dakota (East River)

selmslie wrote:

How can we explain your fear of learning what is r... (show quote)

Scotty,
Exposing for the brightest image possible and coming as close as possible to clipping highlight detail without actually doing so is the basic principle of raw image data exposure, and is most easily accomplished with EBTR.You really ought learn about it and give it a try... with whatever digital camera you might use.
The beauty of Adobe Camera Raw and a few other Raw converters is their ability to recover highlight detail from even just one unclipped channel. Think about how that can be so, Scotty. If you need help, let me know. Always willing to help!

inclinerr Loc: South Carolina, United States

Also in this day and age, if you pull out a phone to take a picture, no one cares. BUT if you pull out a camera or DLSR, everyone starts running for the hills as they don't want their picture taken. What's going on ???