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Jun 2, 2020 18:38:09   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
Blurryeyed wrote:
There is a long dark history of white folks murdering black folks in this country with little fear of having to pay for those crimes. That is very true.


Very true but I was questioning the number of killings by police that were deemed murder. There is a big difference between Floyd and Big Mike, one was a judged a good shooting, the other will be found a Murder.

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Jun 2, 2020 18:41:14   #
letmedance Loc: Walnut, Ca.
 
[quote=sippyjug104]


"If the black community continues to see the whites as the source of their problems, why do they keep voting for them? What on earth would they ever expect to change when they keep doing the same thing over and over."

Because they voted for Obama and things got worse.

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Jun 2, 2020 20:16:10   #
Migradudetoo Loc: El Paso, Texas
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
Because they’re all part of the world wide hoax. It is a very well organized plot to strip away all your freedoms and take over the world.


I didn’t figure you or your slimy ilk could answer it, but thanks for playing anyway, Libby.

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Jun 2, 2020 20:29:19   #
sippyjug104 Loc: Missouri
 
[quote=letmedance]
sippyjug104 wrote:



"If the black community continues to see the whites as the source of their problems, why do they keep voting for them? What on earth would they ever expect to change when they keep doing the same thing over and over."

Because they voted for Obama and things got worse.


Ever so true. Obama is the 'Great Pretender'. His entire life has been an enigma and anyone that tries to get close to finding something out gets stifled in some way. His mannerisms and speech are elegant...buttery smooth. He painted a picture of "Fundamentally Changing America" and unfortunately no one really understood what he truly meant.

Alas, The Great Pretender soon became The Great Disappointment and The Great Flimflam Man.

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Jun 2, 2020 20:41:00   #
LWW Loc: Banana Republic of America
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
Who are "they" now? Today. Name them.
Your past references to dictators and their agenda tell me nothing about who "they" are now?
Please cut the crap and deliver a straight answer.


They were not dictators when they were promoting insurrection.

They are the same people they have always been, leftists of the deep end that aim to inflict there will upon society.

The teachings of Saul Alinsky are very similar to the teachings of Mussolini.

There are peaceful protesters, and there is an insurrection hiding within.

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Jun 2, 2020 22:10:59   #
Kmgw9v Loc: Miami, Florida
 
Migradudetoo wrote:
I didn’t figure you or your slimy ilk could answer it, but thanks for playing anyway, Libby.


I didn't think your question was a serious one.

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Jun 3, 2020 09:45:47   #
Harry0 Loc: Gardena, Cal
 
mwalsh wrote:
If you are really pissed about the destruction of the riots, and you are voicing that anger on social media, I get that. I'm with you.
If you are not just as pissed about the issue sparking the riots, and if you are voicing VIRTUALLY NOTHING on social media about that...
Then you may be part of our problem.
As MLK said, denounce the riot, but denounce the oppression that caused the riot just as vigorously.
Riot is the voice of the unheard.


Which is pointing the finger of our cultural, ingrained endemic bigotry.
Watch the news. There are protestors, peacefully assembled, in the streets.
They are NOT the people looting the stores.
They are NOT the people destroying property.
It's just too easy to use one label, and damn them all.
We had a business owner on the news- pointing at a group of white looters in black jeans and hoodies, organized by cell phones, knew each other's names. They knew which stores, get in get the good get out. They weren't the protestors. The Hispanic families following behind with grocery bags- they were not the protestors.
The police were hiding. Or en mass protecting the rich, the entitleds, the connected.
OR they were messing around the Americans again. Vons had a few in full Swat regalia yelling at shoppers.
I guess it made them feel powerful harassing the helpless.
And this too will blow over. Nothing real will get done. Remember Eric? George si right behind him.

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Jun 3, 2020 10:31:12   #
Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
 
soba1 wrote:
I ain’t black Lol


😎👍🙏

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Jun 3, 2020 10:31:31   #
Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
 
mwalsh wrote:
Far far far way far worse.

Don't know how you can put Klanboi in the same breath as Thom....


Racist is racist!

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Jun 3, 2020 10:33:51   #
Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
 
dennis2146 wrote:
Let me give this a shot at answering your question. Trayvon Martin was depicted by the media and by President Obama as a nice young man who was just going home after shopping and was murdered in cold blood by
George Zimmerman. Zimmerman was portrayed as a racist by part of the MSM as a racist which was not true at all. In fact the real story was Martin was a thug who tried to murder Zimmerman and was shot and killed in self defense by Zimmerman.

Michael Brown had just left a shoplifting/strong arm robbery when he was confronted by the police officer.l. Brown tried to kill the officer and was shot and killed for his trouble. But just as was Trayvon Martin the media portrayed Brown as a nice young man. He was not. He was a common street thug. The Democratic Party used his mother to portray Brown as a wonderful person in order to show that the DNC supports blacks. Problem is the black they supported in Michael Brown was that of someone who tried to murder a police officer and almost did.

THAT is the truth that was overshadowed by the MSM. Sorry you missed it my friend.

Dennis
Let me give this a shot at answering your question... (show quote)



Let’s not forget the original fascist progressive narrative via their toady press that Martin was Murdered in cold blood by a white man. As it became clear that Zimmerman was indeed Hispanic they began their spinning and hemming and hawing.

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Jun 3, 2020 10:41:54   #
Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
 
Kmgw9v wrote:
"Floyd's death, the latest in a line of killings of African-Americans by law enforcement officers in the US, has reawakened deep anger at generations of black people who have fallen victim to police brutality - and rekindled a centuries-long struggle for racial justice in America." Rozina Sabur


I understand what you state is a belief and it has facts behind it. Hopefully you’re also aware that young white men get killed by the police, even more so,then young black men. The same holds true for brutality. I understand there are more yo7 g white men then black men in America, but I also understand that young black men commit a hugely disproportional amount of both crimes and violent crimes.

I point this all out because the specific problem IMHO is not racism but the generally bad police practices and the specific number of bad police.







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Jun 3, 2020 10:46:19   #
Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
 
letmedance wrote:
How many of those killings were actually murders?



Here is the 2018 breakdown of the 995 people shot and killed by the police:

403 were white, 210 were black, 148 were Hispanic, 38 were classified as other, and 199 were classified as unknown.

Out of that 995, 47 were unarmed — 23 were white, 17 were black, 5 were Hispanic, and 2 were unknown.

Out of the 30-50 million interactions that the police had with the American public last year, 10 million people were arrested, and less than 0.01 percent were shot and killed by the police. Out of those 10 million people arrested, 47 of those shot and killed were unarmed, which equates to 0.00047 percent, 17 of which were black.

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Jun 3, 2020 11:06:43   #
dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho
 
Cykdelic wrote:
Let’s not forget the original fascist progressive narrative via their toady press that Martin was Murdered in cold blood by a white man. As it became clear that Zimmerman was indeed Hispanic they began their spinning and hemming and hawing.


Very true. I believe it was CBS that actually altered the phone tape of Zimmerman's call to the police dispatcher to show that Zimmerman was a racist. That is what the MSM has given America, antered views of what really happened to please the Democrats who swallow it hook, line and sinker.

Liberals blame Fox News saying Fox lies. But when I have asked for proof of lies such as that above there never seems to be any evidence forthcoming.

Dennis

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Jun 3, 2020 11:18:07   #
mjmoore17 Loc: Philadelphia, PA area
 
Cykdelic wrote:
Here is the 2018 breakdown of the 995 people shot and killed by the police:

403 were white, 210 were black, 148 were Hispanic, 38 were classified as other, and 199 were classified as unknown.

Out of that 995, 47 were unarmed — 23 were white, 17 were black, 5 were Hispanic, and 2 were unknown.

Out of the 30-50 million interactions that the police had with the American public last year, 10 million people were arrested, and less than 0.01 percent were shot and killed by the police. Out of those 10 million people arrested, 47 of those shot and killed were unarmed, which equates to 0.00047 percent, 17 of which were black.
Here is the 2018 breakdown of the 995 people shot ... (show quote)


So how many dead black people would you like to see.
Some of your facts “do not make sense”. You said that there were 30 -50 million interactions with police by Americans last year. Of these between 33% and 10% were arrested. Do you know anyone who was arrested? Between speeding tickets and rolling stops, who do you think the cops arrest most often? Per your argument between 33% and 10% of them get arrested .
I go to NFL games. Between following instructions for parking and just talking while waiting to park, I have an interaction with police while parking the car and so do most people. With 25,000 autos, where do they park over 2,500 cars every game when 10% are arrested.
Your numbers are questionable at best.

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Jun 3, 2020 12:24:48   #
Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
 
mjmoore17 wrote:
So how many dead black people would you like to see.
Some of your facts “do not make sense”. You said that there were 30 -50 million interactions with police by Americans last year. Of these between 33% and 10% were arrested. Do you know anyone who was arrested? Between speeding tickets and rolling stops, who do you think the cops arrest most often? Per your argument between 33% and 10% of them get arrested .
I go to NFL games. Between following instructions for parking and just talking while waiting to park, I have an interaction with police while parking the car and so do most people. With 25,000 autos, where do they park over 2,500 cars every game when 10% are arrested.
Your numbers are questionable at best.
So how many dead black people would you like to se... (show quote)



Awwww, how cute! Missus Moore cannot dispute facts so she just cries about them!

Your problem is that you are a racist and you are a race baiter.

I think that in general there are too many people killed, period! It would be nice to be in a society where people didn’t commit crimes, where there were no bad cops, where there were no crap procedures.

You, on the other hand, as a race baiter you only want to discuss one color, black, and not the other four because you know as a race baiter that it will create arguments.

Here’s a teaser for you from the U.S. department of justice......
“ In 2015, an estimated 21% of
U.S. residents age 16 or older— about 53.5 million persons—had
experienced some type of contact with the police during the prior
12 months (fgure 1). This was down from 26% of residents in 2011.
A similar percentage of residents”

„
Go back under your rock.

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