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May 28, 2020 16:01:22   #
Electric Gnome Loc: Norwich UK
 
DirtFarmer wrote:
Much better for evaluating the program.
Can it do hair?


Have never tried hair with L4 but may give it a try.

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May 28, 2020 17:56:53   #
Curmudgeon Loc: SE Arizona
 
DirtFarmer wrote:
Much better for evaluating the program.
Can it do hair?


Yes it can but I'm going to suggest you down load the free trial and try it for your self. It has a very shallow learning curve for the basic stuff. If you don't like it don't buy it and delete it from your computer.

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May 28, 2020 20:28:22   #
FreddB Loc: PA - Delaware County
 
DWU2 wrote:


In about a month, Rocky Nook Books will have Photographer's Guide to Luminar 4, by Jeff Carlson available in paper form. It's available now in Kindle form.


Available now @ Barnes & Noble - $35 paperback, $16 for nook

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May 28, 2020 22:08:25   #
mwsilvers Loc: Central New Jersey
 
Electric Gnome wrote:
This was done with Luminar 4, you can refine the sky replacement with a close gaps slider and several other tools for blending etc. First image is original, second image sky replaced with very little fuss. I think it was 1 click replacement but not now sure as it was a few weeks back.


What was the intended main subject of this image, the tree or the sky. In the first photo it's very clear that the tree is the main subject. In the second image, the replacement sky seems to be fighting the tree for dominance as the main element and even partially obscures it. The replacement sky is very interesting, but I don't think it's appropriate for this particular image.

if this was just an experiment, that's fine, but I think the original sky serves this image better. I suspect that many people may overuse very dramatic replacement skies to the detriment of the overall composition.

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May 29, 2020 18:28:51   #
rgrenaderphoto Loc: Hollywood, CA
 
DirtFarmer wrote:
The real test of a program that replaces one portion of an image with another is an image that has more structure to the dividing line between the original and replacement.

I don't have Luminar but have done a few sky replacements and other replacements. In the examples, the mountains present a pretty clean edge between the earth and the sky, so it's not a big problem to replace the uninteresting blue sky with something else. How about some examples with some trees with leaves on them? With sky showing between the branches and leaves? There's a lot more structure in that sort of division. An extreme example is hair. And an even larger problem occurs when the background being replaced is not uniform, and even worse, when it contains colors similar to the foreground.

I believe that sky replacement occupies a relatively minor place in the universe of replacement of elements in images.
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This is an abandoned gas station in Daggett, California. Original image had nothing but a blue expanse.

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May 29, 2020 18:38:21   #
DWU2 Loc: Phoenix Arizona area
 
FreddB wrote:
Available now @ Barnes & Noble - $35 paperback, $16 for nook


I checked at B&N. eBook is available, but paper book is available 6/30/20.

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May 30, 2020 02:42:44   #
rgrenaderphoto Loc: Hollywood, CA
 
Here is the YouTube video selection for Luminar:

https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=luminar+4

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May 30, 2020 10:03:25   #
Electric Gnome Loc: Norwich UK
 
mwsilvers wrote:
What was the intended main subject of this image, the tree or the sky. In the first photo it's very clear that the tree is the main subject. In the second image, the replacement sky seems to be fighting the tree for dominance as the main element and even partially obscures it. The replacement sky is very interesting, but I don't think it's appropriate for this particular image.

if this was just an experiment, that's fine, but I think the original sky serves this image better. I suspect that many people may overuse very dramatic replacement skies to the detriment of the overall composition.
What was the intended main subject of this image, ... (show quote)


You make a very valid point and I also prefer the original image.

This thread was about sky replacement in Luminar 4 and if it would fill gaps between branches efficiently, which was the intended purpose for my post.

I suspect some may prefer the doctored image in the same way as I personally don't like saturation sliders dragged as far to the right as possible, but some really like the effect.

So yes it was to demonstrate Luminar 4's ability to sky replace quickly and efficiently which I find it does. Also I think it better to use your own sky images rather than the provided stock ones as I have already seen a lot of different images with the same sky replacement around the internet.

I agree 100% with your statement "I suspect that many people may overuse very dramatic replacement skies to the detriment of the overall composition."

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