BigDen Loc: Alberta, Canada

IMHO, when someone resorts to name calling it means they do not have a rational opinion to offer. If you disagree with someone you might be expected to present your side of the debate with evidence to support your position. Name calling is what school children do, particularly those who would be considered bullies.

clint f. Loc: Priest Lake Idaho, Spokane Wa

Are you a real doctor? My experiences with MDs in the past has never included being assailed as “stupid”, “selfish”, Or a “fascist.” These condescending and arrogant descriptions are generally the antithesis of good bedside manner or common decency. There are conflicting opinions about what we should do to protect our selves and our fellow man. In the final analysis I am in charge of whom I come into contact with. I have comornidities and am at greater risk than others. I will protect myself from others because it’s my job not theirs. I have the luxury of being able to survive without going to work but understand the financial and emotional stress of the pandemic is killing people just like the virus does. You can do whatever you want, I’ll take care of me. Unless you are from the government saying we are moving you into a nursing home, but don’t worry we won’t tell them you are infected. Thanks Guv.

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

My Governor says it is your responsibility in some cases to protect us. In other cases, our county government has mandated the use of masks. In any case your “I’ll take care of myself” is self serving. You have the right to be selfish, but it is not admirable. You could be infected and not even know it.

DocDav Loc: IN

This was initiated by others calling those of us asking for common courtesy ( wear your mask) Fascists. I am merely responding.

clint f. Loc: Priest Lake Idaho, Spokane Wa

Whoa big ‘fella. Me taking care of myself has nothing to do with you. I do not believe keeping healthy is selfish, though it is self serving......because I’m in charge of my health. I have placed no-one at risk, not placed myself in harms way. I am fortunate inasmuch as I live primarily in a semi rural area and because of that I’m not forced to contact anybody in person. The sole exception is grocery shopping that my wife does. She was a “germaphobe” before I became popular so she follows the guidelines to a “T.” She shops in a mask, with social distancing and frequent hand washing and for several weeks as the grocery store is 80 miles away. The chance of her getting infected are remote, for me it is infantisimly low. We choose to be in charge of our health. So you may go wag your finger at anybody you’d like but don’t call me selfish, you will NEVER get the virus from me.

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

The point is that whether I catch the virus from you will depend on whether you wear a mask {and social distance} and whether you have the virus. Since science has already established that people can be asymptomatic when giving off the virus, that means you CAN give it totally unaware that is a possibility - and you could avoid that only by hiding all of the time in your basement and avoiding any human contact.

BigDen Loc: Alberta, Canada

If you were actually “asking” then you might have a point. As I read it, you were demanding that he conform to your position, otherwise he is stupid and selfish. On that basis, maybe he is not that far off with his fascist remark. Perhaps instead of name calling, you could have outlined why you believe the mask will protect him and you. There are numerous reports that the mask may be detrimental to one’s health. In one instance a woman passed out from the accumulation of CO2 trapped in the mask. She crashed her car. Fortunately she was the only one hurt. There are also mixed reports that the mask is not effective at all, particularly those that are home made.

I live in an area with 1.4 million population. In three months we have had 524 confirmed cases, 52 active with 5 in hospital. There have been 13 deaths all from LTC. These numbers are all well below the annual flu figures. I have had neglible contact with people outside my household for 2 weeks. Am I really stupid and selfish if I choose to not wear a mask?

clint f. Loc: Priest Lake Idaho, Spokane Wa

I don’t have a basement but I will not be in a position to spread the virus. I don’t call it hiding, I’m just looking out for myself by avoiding you carriers. I know how the virus spreads. Or should say I know what the current theory is. It changes weekly. I just choose to avoid infection and am lucky enough to be able to do so.

rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA

and hopefully avoid sharing if you do catch it. The point is that social distancing and using a mask are not signs of weakness - they are signs of caring about other people.

cwp3420

You’re certainly a self-righteous, pompous little toadie, and no one on here gives a rats ass if your a doctor or the Queen of Sheba. Get over yourself.

cwp3420

It must be very difficult and hard to live in such abject fear all of the time, cowering behind your mask. Many doctors have been in the news lately saying that there is more of an issue with healthy people wearing masks that those who truly need them. They recommend that healthy people not wear them. And yet I have not seen you talk of that or even mention it. Unlike you, I refuse to live my life in constant fear all of the time. My sympathies to you, my friend.

PAR4DCR Loc: A Sunny Place

Surprised this thread has not been moved to the ATTIC yet.

Don

rbnm Loc: New Mexico

Very well said! Thanks

Lucian Loc: From Wales, living in Ohio

Yes there are a few fat little bullies that seem to have moved into a corner here, that never grew up. I blame the parents :-)

These are not the types that we appreciate on this forum. It is thankfully, quite courteous and respectful on the others threads. If there is any sort of monitoring on here, it may be about time to do some bully removal, because it has long been the norm now, that bullies are no longer tolerated in our society.

No one wants them here and supposed adults doing name calling??? Well, maybe these few can one day learn to be responsible adults, but I rather doubt it. They can't get the whole understanding of what it means to be a considerate, respectful adult when they are still living in their parent's basements.

CWGordon

DocDay:
It’s great to see that there are some people with good common sense still out there. There are several guys that come to mind. Lucian, rehess, Dennis from Toronto, and a number of others. Because I believe my life, yours, and almost everyone else’s life is important I must be a Fascist! We have about 4% of the world population and close to a third the deaths, probably more. A 100 thousand death total, hundreds and hundreds of cases, better than 25% of the world cases and the guy wants us to feel good that our percentage isn’t a big deal! Wow! What do you say to a guy like that, who only wears a mask when required? He certainly misses the point. Because I have a desire to live and he wants the freedom to perhaps recklessly kill you and me, he feels he has the right to call me names! It is incredulous. In any other time, with even mediocre leadership, we would all be united and doing everything we could to help each other. However, we have some Hydroxychloraquine loving people who don’t care if old or sick or minorities die from this disease, as long as they can choose whether they want to wear a mask or intelligently and respectfully maintain appropriate social distancing. By the way, is there anyone out there who truly believes this guy really wears the mask like he says he does?
I have tried to communicate dispassionately with a good number of these guys. A couple were courteous and likewise expressed their opinions like adults, with maturity and objectivity. Unfortunately, there are far too many who are always angry and insulting. I often wonder what, in this wonderful Country could cause so much of their anger. Have they been through several nasty Divorces? Have they been fired or downsized too many times? Have they been passed over for promotion time after time? Did their children have very real problems? I am not poking fun. These are all terrible issues for anyone to face. I would still think it takes multiples of these or other dramatic catastrophies to be as angry as they are. I am always amazed that they buy into the latest political lies and b.s. from a guy who despises people like them. He considers them to be losers and himself a winner. He likes only billionaires and powerful dictators. Everyone else matters not to him. I just cannot see the attraction and the anger and bitterness of these folks. Anyone have a theory as to why they think the way they do? They have a right to their opinions, but get angry and name call when anyone else expresses a different opinion. I am puzzled.
I would have responded sooner, but was out riding my bicycle. Some good tours coming up for me.
Very truly yours,
Fascist