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May 26, 2020 01:54:01   #
Effate Loc: El Dorado Hills, Ca.
 
BigDen wrote:
Ridiculous? Go and reread your post on page 3 “mainly by their disregard for their own health.”

Congratulations on watching your sugar and carbs and following intermittent fasting. That is the prescription for long term weight loss. I hope you pass that remedy on to your sister.

Few doctors and health organizations will actually give this advice, in fact, most will still say calories in versus calories out. Diet and exercise! WHO just put out an article (April 1, 2020) espousing this regimen for weight loss. Yet it fails 99% of the time. Metabolism slows when you diet.
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When I say disregard I am simply referring to the vast majority of outcomes that require medical interventions can be mitigated by better choices and taking a wholistic approach. One size doesn’t fit all but most can improve their health with more attention to prevention rather than being reactive. When you disregard your insulin, gut health, what and how you eat, your activity level, your stress management then I maintain you are disregarding your health until you are in crisis mode. How is that thinking ridiculous?

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May 26, 2020 02:12:04   #
cwp3420
 
BusterCrabbe wrote:
@Architect1776
My my my....listen to you. The last time I heard talk like that was that fat kid bully back in grade school....you know the one that now lives with his mom and flips burgers at some run down joint.
Yes, it is all about your...Don't Tread on Me...lifestyle. Zero consideration for others.
I am so glad I do not live in the US and feel badly for all those in the US that do care about each other.


We’re glad you don’t live in the US too.

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May 26, 2020 02:16:40   #
cwp3420
 
skylinefirepest wrote:
Bob Hartung...those tattoo parlors provide someone with the ability to feed their family. Open up ALL the businesses and act safely. I will never again submit to a lockdown and watch my friends and neighbors lose their ability to survive. We risked it all with Japan and Germany but we're acting like solid wussies over a virus?? Where has the American spirit gone? We have now risked the very livelihood of our country over a stinking virus...are you freaking serious? So yes, I'm willing to risk your life...and mine too...to save this great country.
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May 26, 2020 02:18:17   #
cwp3420
 
rehess wrote:
Are those fact based? Actual numbers?


Check the numbers in LA County from suicide with people being locked up at home.

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May 26, 2020 02:24:44   #
cwp3420
 
CWGordon wrote:
It seems the cult members always want to “shame” people for wanting to minimize their risk. I think the people who do the shaming merely want to transfer their blame and shame to others. Really, not wearing a mask is not about rights, but about their not caring about anyone, but themselves. I want and do go out. I wear a mask in Home Depot and other public places. It irritates me how many selfish, self-centered people really don’t care about their community at large. They just justify their own irresponsibility by try ing to twist and turn around the beliefs, health, and welfare of others so they can deflect blame and feel self-righteous about their own dangerous conduct.
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Quit whining. It’s unseemly. Good for you, you wear a mask. I don’t. If your afraid of catching something from me, then stay home and hide under mommy’s skirt.

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May 26, 2020 05:22:09   #
DocDav Loc: IN
 
To all. Obesity is a multi factorial disease. Yes, in some cases it is gluttony but that is rare. Insulin and insulin resistance has a part in it. So does Leptin. So does your intestinal flora. Genetics. Calories in vs calories out. And others. At times, it seems you all are simplification or demonizing or passing judgement.

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May 26, 2020 09:18:26   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
cwp3420 wrote:
Quit whining. It’s unseemly. Good for you, you wear a mask. I don’t. If your afraid of catching something from me, then stay home and hide under mommy’s skirt.

Or just stay away from you. Protecting oneself is itself an adult decision.

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May 26, 2020 10:37:46   #
Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
 
DocDav wrote:
medically there is no way to compare this virus to a flu. It is not what the media tells us, it is medical fact. We can disagree on many things about this mess, and we can do that reasonably, but I am in medicine and perhaps read things you do not have access to, but regardless, that comparison is not valid. The R0 and the fatality rates do not compare on an per capital basis. I admit it may be another 4 or so years to have accurate numbers, but so far, no comparrison.


Incorrect.......Look at the stat sample studies done in Cali and NY for some hints.

Also, from early April, German virologists tested nearly 80 percent of the population of Gangelt for antibodies that indicate whether they'd been infected by the coronavirus. Around 15 percent had been infected, allowing them to calculate a COVID-19 infection fatality rate of about 0.37 percent. The researchers also concluded that people who recover from the infection are immune to reinfection, at least for a while.
For comparison, the U.S. infection fatality rates for the 1957–58 flu epidemic was around 0.27 percent; for the 1918 Spanish flu epidemic, it was about 2.6 percent. For seasonal flu, the rate typically averages around 0.1 percent.

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May 26, 2020 10:42:28   #
Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
 
CWGordon wrote:
Gee, Architect:
I guess the older folks should be willing to just lie down and die, so you can guzzle your beer, not wear a mask, and continue to insult people who might not agree with your radical, far right, beliefs. Hard to believe you served in the military and never figured out why a military is necessary.


Actually the “old folks” can stay in their homes, yes????

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May 26, 2020 10:45:56   #
Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
 
Lucian wrote:
Further to your mentioning about 50s and 60s and even 70s body types, if you have not been outside of the USA, and I mean the "Royal" you, not anyone specifically. In fact let me change that around. If anyone has travelled outside of the USA to say Europe or the UK, when walking down any city street or walk through any large department store or mall (though we have very few mall type shopping places in Europe and the UK), you will notice that the vast majority of people are slim body types, still, thankfully. Yes you will see some portly body types and even the odd obese person walking about. However, the vast majority are of the slimmer body type.

Now walk almost anywhere in the USA from city streets to department stores to malls and you will see mostly obese body types to morbidly obese body types. The slim fitter looking body type is greatly in the minority. You would be shocked I'm sure, if you began to count the number of fat, compared to slim bodies you encounter on any single day as you walk about and open your eyes to what you are seeing. Again "you" means anyone.

We have far less of the fast food type of restaurants in the UK and Europe (though they are expanding slowly, and it is my opinion, as others have also suggested, that these type of eating places, along with soooo many processed foods on the shelves, that go to turning what was once healthy slim bodies, into large obese versions of today.

I recall many years ago when I lived in Austria and McDonalds first came into Germany and Austria. The food and health ministry banned them from selling hamburgers because for their countries standards, McDonald's did not have enough meat content in their patties. They also had to change their bread ingredients for their buns to a more healthful content. Another example is the fact that MSG is banned from the ingredients allowed in foods but here it is rampant in foods. Many E numbers that are used in foods for colouring over in the USA have been banned for many, many years in Europe and the UK due to the damage they do to the body.
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Most Obese Countries:

1. Republic of Nauru

Formerly known as Pleasant Island, this tiny island country in the South Pacific only has a population of 9,300. The country has the highest rate of obesity in the world with 78.5 percent of the population categorized as such. Unsurprisingly, they also have the highest levels of type-2 diabetes in the world.

2. American Samoa

Another South Pacific island, Samoa is an unincorporated territory of the U.S. With a population of 55,519, according to the latest U.S. census, 74.6 percent of its citizens are obese.

3. Tokelau

Yet another South Pacific Island, Tokelau is a New Zealand territory with less than 2,000 inhabitants. It's the fourth least populace country in the world, but 63.4 percent of the population is obese.

4. Tonga

Fourth on our list is yet another island in the southern Pacific Ocean. Tonga is a sovereign state in Polynesia that gained its independence from the British in 1970. They are the largest nation by population so far on the list with over 103,000, over half of which are obese-56 percent.

5. French Polynesia

Seventeen hundred miles away from Tonga is French Polynesia, comprising of around 130 islands, including Tahiti. French Polynesia is an overseas country of France, but the president of French Polynesia maintains position as head of government. They have a population of 268,000 and an obesity rate of 40.9 percent.

6. Republic of Kiribati

Number six on the list is another island nation, though this one is in the central Pacific Ocean and straddles the equator. With a population of 103,500, Kiribati has an obesity rate of 50.6 percent.

7. Saudi Arabia

Saudi Arabia is the first country on the list that is not an island. The world's largest oil exporter has a population of just under 30 million. Their obesity rate is 35.6 percent, meaning over 10 million Saudis are obese.

8. Panama

This Central American nation is home to 3.6 million, a world-famous canal and an obesity rate of 34.7 percent.

9. United States of America

Coming in at ninth place, America has an obesity rate of 33.9 percent, according to the WHO. The rate has been steady since 2005, but has grown exponentially since the late '90s, when the rate fluctuated between 16 and 20 percent. With a population of 313 million, the 33.9 percent rate translates into over 106 million obese Americans.

10. United Arab Emirates

Rounding out the top 10, the United Arab Emirates is a federation of seven emirates including Abu Dhabi and Dubai. The country has a population of five and half million and an obesity rate of 33.7 percent.

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May 26, 2020 12:13:09   #
CWGordon
 
Cykedelic:
That is why this Country has such huge leads in cases and deaths; because of people who will not do anything for their community residents. You guys don’t care if you kill others. If the question is minor inconvenience for you or death to anyone else; I know on which side you will come down. We have had a civil interaction before, but now I ses you really only care about you and not your fellow man in the slightest. Congratulations on your thought process.

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May 26, 2020 13:05:01   #
DocDav Loc: IN
 
CWGordon wrote:
Cykedelic:
That is why this Country has such huge leads in cases and deaths; because of people who will not do anything for their community residents. You guys don’t care if you kill others. If the question is minor inconvenience for you or death to anyone else; I know on which side you will come down. We have had a civil interaction before, but now I ses you really only care about you and not your fellow man in the slightest. Congratulations on your thought process.


Thanks for saying it. I wanted to but held off. They are selfish asses. They truly don't care about one thing beyond their selfish childish stupid "I won't wear a mask" attitude. They couch it in "I'm a Free american" and feel better. No. They are stupids. They may or may not take great photo's, but they are stupid. One, unmentioned, just loves to lurk and anytime someone says something he disagrees with just calls out Looser. he doesnt recognize what he is.

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May 26, 2020 13:08:33   #
Cykdelic Loc: Now outside of Chiraq & Santa Fe, NM
 
CWGordon wrote:
Cykedelic:
That is why this Country has such huge leads in cases and deaths; because of people who will not do anything for their community residents. You guys don’t care if you kill others. If the question is minor inconvenience for you or death to anyone else; I know on which side you will come down. We have had a civil interaction before, but now I ses you really only care about you and not your fellow man in the slightest. Congratulations on your thought process.



...and now I see you’re a whiny little fascist, yes? You want to impose YOUR views and opinions on everyone else and if they don’t comply they are evil. You make assumptions and think you’re opinion is fact.

Newsflash, bunky......I wear a mask out in public because it’s required. I make no exceptions.

Also, the USA doesn’t have a huge lead in cases and deaths when one looks at it intelligently, which means on a per capita basis. In fact, not only are we well below many other countries (at least the ones not fudging numbers like China and Russia), but we are doing great on a state basis. In fact, every single state and territory of the USA has. 10% or below positive rate on tests. Oh.....we have also performed more tests than every nation on earth, and when you include antigen testing we dwarf the entire planet.

The result??? Well, given we are the third most populated country on earth we are doing damn well! If we were to subtract the gross incompetence of NY and NJ, we are cruising! Back out the tragedy of failures at long term care facilities and we are at the “minor flu” level.

Your virtue signaling is tiresome....... your thought process is limited and flawed as you refuse to accept data that doesn’t conform to your set viewpoints. Your confirmation bias is palpable.....because you believe COVID is the bogeyman who cannot be stopped anyone who disagrees is evil!

Grow up.

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May 26, 2020 13:19:58   #
DocDav Loc: IN
 
Cykdelic wrote:
...and now I see you’re a whiny little fascist, yes? You want to impose YOUR views and opinions on everyone else and if they don’t comply they are evil. You make assumptions and think you’re opinion is fact.

Newsflash, bunky......I wear a mask out in public because it’s required. I make no exceptions.

Also, the USA doesn’t have a huge lead in cases and deaths when one looks at it intelligently, which means on a per capita basis. In fact, not only are we well below many other countries (at least the ones not fudging numbers like China and Russia), but we are doing great on a state basis. In fact, every single state and territory of the USA has. 10% or below positive rate on tests. Oh.....we have also performed more tests than every nation on earth, and when you include antigen testing we dwarf the entire planet.

The result??? Well, given we are the third most populated country on earth we are doing damn well! If we were to subtract the gross incompetence of NY and NJ, we are cruising! Back out the tragedy of failures at long term care facilities and we are at the “minor flu” level.

Your virtue signaling is tiresome....... your thought process is limited and flawed as you refuse to accept data that doesn’t conform to your set viewpoints. Your confirmation bias is palpable.....because you believe COVID is the bogeyman who cannot be stopped anyone who disagrees is evil!

Grow up.
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I am grown up. And I am in medicine. At least you wear a mask when required but I see, reluctantly? Indicating you are, as I mentioned, both selfish, and stupid and see no reason why you should be concerned about the welfare of any but yourself. PS. perhaps you would be less stupid if you knew what a fascist were? But, unfortunately, you would still be selfish. Wonder if you wear a seat belt or if you believe drinking and driving is ok and to say otherwise is an infringement on your rights?

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May 26, 2020 14:09:43   #
cwp3420
 
rehess wrote:
Or just stay away from you. Protecting oneself is itself an adult decision.


That works for me too.

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