How Veterans Feel (Page 4): One of my used to be favorite cousins went to Canada with her draft dodging husband about the same time I went to Vietnam for my first tour. She ceased...

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

Daryls wrote:

Bnsf,

Jimmy Carter pardoned all those draft dodgers. They came back afterwards.

Daryl

One of my used to be favorite cousins went to Canada with her draft dodging husband about the same time I went to Vietnam for my first tour. She ceased being my cousin that day. We don't do cowards in my family.

Dennis

Keen

Some Of us enlisted voluntarily, and some were drafted.

Keen

I always figured that this country gave me plenty, And honorable military service was a way to give something back. It does not have to involve killing, though it might, and it is often less dangerous than walking / driving past a beach full of Spring Breakers here at home. I enlisted during Nam, and survived. As a Medic I helped save lives. I saw more danger as a civilian here at home....dying, going out of body, and reviving....twice....before age 12. I learned that life continues past what we call death, so death does not frighten me. That knowledge served me well in the military.

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

Daryls wrote:

Bananapuppy,

A lot of the old sergeants use to tell us youngsters that A**holes Sign Anything because we signed up for four years when others only did two or three years. I was a 33C, then a 33S (1971 - 1980). I was in Shemya, then Fort Devens to teach, and then Augsburg, West Germany on the ASA Maintenance and Assistance Instruction Team before heading to Fort Benning for OCS and EOD until retirement in 1992.

What MOS did you have?

Daryl

11B

waymond Loc: Pflugerville, Texas

Well stated.

Thanks for serving. My tour was in Korea (Osan) many years ago.

Fotoserj Loc: St calixte Qc Ca

I did in Canada, 15 years

Daryls Loc: Waco, TX

dennis2146 wrote:

One of my used to be favorite cousins went to Canada with her draft dodging husband about the same time I went to Vietnam for my first tour. She ceased being my cousin that day. We don't do cowards in my family.

Dennis

I understand how you felt about her Dennis. But understand too that it was her husband and her duty is to her family first. With that said, I would still feel sad for her and would ignore her husband.

Daryl

Daryls Loc: Waco, TX

Architect1776 wrote:

11B

In ASA they would threaten us with taking away our security clearances, reassigning us as 11B's, and shipping us off to Viet Nam. I volunteered six times for Viet Nam (radio research groups or SOD), but was turned down each time. Got sent to Shemya Air Force Base instead where we had girls behind every tree. Unfortunately, we did not have any trees because of the strong winds (over 200 mph) the island experienced each year.

Even after OCS, the Army put me in Ordnance instead of MI or Infantry, so I volunteered for EOD and served there until they forced retirement after the first Gulf War.

Daryl

kibbles304 Loc: Indiana

Just a side note...I will always remember what Sgt. “Cool Breeze” (that’s all we ever called him) said to us new kids going out on our first mission, “remember everything you are carrying out to the field tonight went to the manufacturer that bid the lowest!

dennis2146 Loc: Eastern Idaho

Daryls wrote:

I understand how you felt about her Dennis. But understand too that it was her husband and her duty is to her family first. With that said, I would still feel sad for her and would ignore her husband.

Daryl

Sorry but you are wasting my time and yours. Please don't bother. I just don't give a shit. A traitor and a coward will always remain so. Even her two brothers want nothing to do with her.

Dennis

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

Daryls wrote:

In ASA they would threaten us with taking away our... (show quote)

I even had Secret Clearance I believe.
I remember I could enter secure spaces for briefings etc. that many officers in my unit could not enter due to not enough clearance.
It was a lot of fun walking up to the guard at the door watching officers being turned away then being waved in right in their astonished faces.
Long time ago so do not remember the actual Clearance but when getting it family and long forgotten friends were contacting me as to what was going on and why they were being questioned by the government.
I joked and said I squealed on them.

Daryls Loc: Waco, TX

Architect1776 wrote:

I even had Secret Clearance I believe. br I rememb... (show quote)

You had a Secret or Top Secret clearance after passing a Special Background Investigation. You may even have had an SCI Access - Special Compartmented Information.

In intelligence we all had those clearances, and they were updated every five years to ensure we didn't get compromised in the intervening years. Spying by the communists was rampant here in the USA and at or overseas bases during the Cold War.

Daryl

Architect1776 Loc: In my mind

Daryls wrote:

You had a Secret or Top Secret clearance after passing a Special Background Investigation. You may even have had an SCI Access - Special Compartmented Information.

In intelligence we all had those clearances, and they were updated every five years to ensure we didn't get compromised in the intervening years. Spying by the communists was rampant here in the USA and at or overseas bases during the Cold War.

Daryl

Yes, I do know that I was not allowed anywhere near the East German border or Berlin when off duty. Kind of sucked.

DeanS Loc: Capital City area of North Carolina

Daryls wrote:

You had a Secret or Top Secret clearance after passing a Special Background Investigation. You may even have had an SCI Access - Special Compartmented Information.

In intelligence we all had those clearances, and they were updated every five years to ensure we didn't get compromised in the intervening years. Spying by the communists was rampant here in the USA and at or overseas bases during the Cold War.

Daryl

I held these clearances for better part of 30 yrs, abt last half of mil yrs and most of career in industry. If memory serves, SCI clearances req an EBI (Extended BI.)

robertjerl Loc: Corona, California

DeanS wrote:

I held these clearances for better part of 30 yrs, abt last half of mil yrs and most of career in industry. If memory serves, SCI clearances req an EBI (Extended BI.)

A friend of mine was a computer tech, qualified to build them from a warehouse of parts, in the 60's. He could build, maintain and sit down and type code in 4 of the old DOS computer languages. One year in Nam running the computers for the 101st and one year in Germany running computers at US Army HQ W Germany or whatever they called it. During his year in Germany he was not allowed near the border or to go to Berlin and they issued him a permit to carry and he had to be armed at all times with orders "don't let yourself be captured". Seems high end computer people were on the Soviet and Warsaw Pact shopping list of people they "really" wanted to spend time with. Most of the time he wasn't allowed to go anywhere off base by himself. He said once or twice a German cop got suspicious and stopped him. When the cop saw the multiple orders - US, NATO and West German with the permit to carry issued by their federal cops it was suddenly "Have a nice day Herr Mack."