Upgrade from D3400?
May 20, 2020 10:42:00 #
May 20, 2020 11:02:41 #
BebuLamar wrote:
The OP can't have the D3400 for more than 4 years and he already wants to upgrade. I think it's too early. The OP should have bought the D750.
Just out of curiosity, how often do you replace your car?
May 20, 2020 11:13:15 #
foggypreacher
Loc: Dickinson, Texas
BebuLamar wrote:
The OP can't have the D3400 for more than 4 years and he already wants to upgrade. I think it's too early. The OP should have bought the D750.
I disagree. I had the D3400 for 2-1/2 years. I bought a used D7200l (yes, still a DX) and was wowed by the difference. Being able to set different settings for different genres, etc. is great. I did not think I would care if I had a second SD slot, but it has helped.
My point is that the D3400 is very basic. However, if you shoot enough with it, regardless the time frame, the upgraded features in a better camera can make a difference. Having said that, one of the nice things about UHH is being able to agree to disagree. Thanks BebuLamar.
May 20, 2020 11:22:01 #
Well, lots of answers that I am sure are confusing the OP. He has his eyes on a D750, perhaps he expects better images, I do not really know but I would say better images will depend more on techniques than on the camera and lens.
He did not say either why he wants a "full frame" camera. Buying a camera like the D750 to use DX lenses with it only means that the full sensor will not be used so he will be loosing lots of pixels. Perhaps another DX body like the D7200 could be his best solution to upgrading. I only upgrade when the camera I have lacks features I need. None of my cameras are new. I usually buy used or refurb. Same with my lenses.
If you are not happy with the DX format you have a good reason to upgrade but consider that your images are not going to be considerably better than those you make now. Consider also how much it will cost you.
Good luck with your decision.
He did not say either why he wants a "full frame" camera. Buying a camera like the D750 to use DX lenses with it only means that the full sensor will not be used so he will be loosing lots of pixels. Perhaps another DX body like the D7200 could be his best solution to upgrading. I only upgrade when the camera I have lacks features I need. None of my cameras are new. I usually buy used or refurb. Same with my lenses.
If you are not happy with the DX format you have a good reason to upgrade but consider that your images are not going to be considerably better than those you make now. Consider also how much it will cost you.
Good luck with your decision.
May 20, 2020 11:57:24 #
rcarol wrote:
Just out of curiosity, how often do you replace your car?
Sometimes more than 10 years sometimes one year (because I crashed it) but the car is replaced whenever it doesn't work any more or can not be repaired economically. Although the OP said his D3400 is beat up I am sure it still fully functioning.
May 20, 2020 12:01:32 #
SuperflyTNT wrote:
Why is 4 years to early to upgrade? Why should the OP have bought the D750? If you’re saying that why shouldn’t he have bought the D850? My question to the OP would be “what do you expect to gain from the FF that you’re not getting from your crop sensor? If money is an issue then I would look at a refurbished D7500.
Whatever a camera is good for you only you know. If the OP think the D750 is better for him than the D3400 then he should buy it then because the D750 was introduced about 2 years before the D3400. If the OP thinks the D3400 is fine then it's fine. I have no problem with that. If you have to buy new camera because it broke sure. If you buy new camera because the new camera wasn't available at the time you bought your old camera it's fine. But if you bought one then found out later you like the other one better it's a mistake.
May 20, 2020 12:02:14 #
It's your money. It's your decision. It you let the UHH community spend your money, nothing you have will ever be good enough to their standards.
May 20, 2020 12:07:18 #
CHG_CANON wrote:
It's your money. It's your decision. It you let the UHH community spend your money, nothing you have will ever be good enough to their standards.
That's true and this type of questions shouldn't be asked. Only you know which camera you should buy.
May 20, 2020 12:32:23 #
Treely.D wrote:
Currently, I have a Nikon D3400 (which is pretty b... (show quote)
So your D3400 has had a hard life? Too bad, I have had a D3300 since before yours came out on the market, it has performed very well and I have had many compliments on my Photography. I have considered the D5600 as my next upgrade, waiting for the right deal to show up, yes, on Ebay. I have 5 Nikon DX lens, from 10-20 wide angle to 18-140 telephoto, also 50mm1.8g & 35mm 1.8g. also my 55-200 lens. All my eqiupment was bought as used. Everything is working fine, producing very good images. I am looking to concentrate on Landscape Photograpy, have been following, learning and enjoying Videos produced by Landscape Photographer, "Mark Denney". Hope you find the DSLR of your dreams, Enjoy your Photography journey.
May 20, 2020 12:34:24 #
Treely.D
Loc: Massachusetts
BebuLamar wrote:
That's true and this type of questions shouldn't be asked. Only you know which camera you should buy.
I fully understand that it's my decision, and by no means am I going to buy something just because someone told me to. I just wanted to hear people's opinions and or personal experiences to weigh in on the research I've been doing. Eventually, I'll come to a well informed decision, and hearing any thoughts people have helps.
May 20, 2020 12:52:42 #
“ (Currently I don't have a budget, and if I did it would be at around 100 bucks. Any money spent will take a lot of time to save for, especially considering the pandemic right now.) Thanks“.[/quote]
I am curious. You want to upgrade to a full frame. You are looking for a good deal. Your budget is unlimited. However, at this time you cannot exceed $100.00?
I am curious. You want to upgrade to a full frame. You are looking for a good deal. Your budget is unlimited. However, at this time you cannot exceed $100.00?
May 20, 2020 13:04:10 #
larryepage
Loc: North Texas area
This is one of several conversations going on right now in which members are being chided for wanting to upgrade from a D3xxx camera. Many of the arguments being posted are, quite frankly, misinformed and really pretty arrogant. I've used both D3400s and D3500s and helped students with them at school, and. quite frankly, these are very problematic cameras for people wanting to progress beyond pointing and shooting. Physical controls are absent, and menus are, to say the least, obtuse and awkward. It is correct to say that they can capture good images in middle-of-the-road situations, but they are very difficult to use in more marginal conditions. Yes...kids do OK with them, but kids have a sort of innate ability to get past most obstacles (and obstacles of many types).
One respected member here went so far to say something like that the D3xxx is a professional grade camera that is every bit as good as a D7500 or D750 or even a D500. This comment belies either a profound level of ignorance about the camera or a profound disrespect for the inquirer's question. Quite frankly, replies of this sort are becoming very tiresome here. And 10 other members fell right in line behind.
Now that my blood pressure is down a little bit, some words to the OP...
Yes...the D3400 is capable of capturing similar images to those captured by other digital cameras in a lot of cases. But you will find that as you move to more capable models, the ability to capture images in more difficult situations expands significantly. Not only that but the ease with which you can capture those images increases drastically, once you have learned the capabilities of the camera and how to access them. I have not used the D7xxx Nikons, so will not address them. I have worked with rollout of the D5xxx Nikons at school, and I am completely unimpressed with them as an "upgrade" to the D3400. They do offer some additional capabilities that I would class as mostly just cosmetic, while retaining most of the operational shortcomings that frustrate me with the D3xxx cameras.
Depending on what you would like to accomplish with a different camera, there are many viable paths available to you. If you want to learn how to use a camera with better menus, better controls, and much better ergonomics, you could find a nice used D300 or D300s. Cost would be very low. The disadvantage is that thneither of these cameras are supported by Nikon now, so you may have a harder time getting good repairs done if necessary. Used D500s are also available, but may be beyond your budget. There are also a number of used full frame models available, and I endorse your willingness to use DX lenses for a while as you are saving for other lenses.
I'm not sure what battery that your D3400 uses, but if buying used, you might want to do some research and see if any of the full frame models use the same battery as that camera. Being able to bring your batteries along could also be a money saver, at least in the short term. (I don't know if this is even an option, and don't let it be your primary criterion for selecting a camera.)
So...there's quite a bit to think about. Have fun doing it. And good luck.
One respected member here went so far to say something like that the D3xxx is a professional grade camera that is every bit as good as a D7500 or D750 or even a D500. This comment belies either a profound level of ignorance about the camera or a profound disrespect for the inquirer's question. Quite frankly, replies of this sort are becoming very tiresome here. And 10 other members fell right in line behind.
Now that my blood pressure is down a little bit, some words to the OP...
Yes...the D3400 is capable of capturing similar images to those captured by other digital cameras in a lot of cases. But you will find that as you move to more capable models, the ability to capture images in more difficult situations expands significantly. Not only that but the ease with which you can capture those images increases drastically, once you have learned the capabilities of the camera and how to access them. I have not used the D7xxx Nikons, so will not address them. I have worked with rollout of the D5xxx Nikons at school, and I am completely unimpressed with them as an "upgrade" to the D3400. They do offer some additional capabilities that I would class as mostly just cosmetic, while retaining most of the operational shortcomings that frustrate me with the D3xxx cameras.
Depending on what you would like to accomplish with a different camera, there are many viable paths available to you. If you want to learn how to use a camera with better menus, better controls, and much better ergonomics, you could find a nice used D300 or D300s. Cost would be very low. The disadvantage is that thneither of these cameras are supported by Nikon now, so you may have a harder time getting good repairs done if necessary. Used D500s are also available, but may be beyond your budget. There are also a number of used full frame models available, and I endorse your willingness to use DX lenses for a while as you are saving for other lenses.
I'm not sure what battery that your D3400 uses, but if buying used, you might want to do some research and see if any of the full frame models use the same battery as that camera. Being able to bring your batteries along could also be a money saver, at least in the short term. (I don't know if this is even an option, and don't let it be your primary criterion for selecting a camera.)
So...there's quite a bit to think about. Have fun doing it. And good luck.
May 20, 2020 13:35:50 #
While I cover all the more expensive Nikons which are of interest to hard-core photographers, when my normal friends ask what camera to get, it's always this inexpensive D3400 or the older, less expensive and almost identical D3300. The only reason I often shoot fancier cameras is that I have to go into menus to set the advanced features of the D3400, while my bigger cameras usually have dedicated knobs or buttons to let me make those adjustments more quickly. No worries, most people don't even know what these adjustments do, which is why the D3400 does away with the extra buttons to save us all money — and all the features are still there in the menu system.
Ken Rockwell, Aug 2016, D3400 review
https://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d3400.htm
Ken Rockwell, Aug 2016, D3400 review
https://www.kenrockwell.com/nikon/d3400.htm
May 20, 2020 13:41:39 #
larryepage
Loc: North Texas area
CHG_CANON wrote:
i While I cover all the more expensive Nikons whi... (show quote)
This is fine for someone buying a first camera. Not for someone wanting to expand capabilities.
May 20, 2020 13:44:58 #
When I was just a little boy, my parents used to take me to the camera store. I wanted to see the cameras. Such amazing designs, such amazing lenses, such amazing prices. My father would buy a new camera every few years even though his pictures where never really very good. He was always reading the DXO sharpness charts and discussing the micron size of the pixels. His images were hardly ever in focus. After he passed I was going through his things. I fear he read on UHH that equipment is what matters most and as he grew older, he never could free himself from this thought.
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