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May 16, 2020 10:10:33   #
rappar Loc: Kingston Ontario
 
I have done a search on this and read what is there.

Recently, I purchased the Z50 kit with both of the lenses. In the past, I have had much fun with a fisheye or wide lens. However, there do not appear to be any out there unless you buy an adapter and those do not play to great reviews based on my readings.

I had the widest Rokinon/Samyang I could get for another camera and was happy with the results.

Anyone with the Z50 and a lens other than the two in the kit?

Thanks.
Ron

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May 16, 2020 10:20:03   #
Bill_de Loc: US
 
rappar wrote:
I have done a search on this and read what is there.

Recently, I purchased the Z50 kit with both of the lenses. In the past, I have had much fun with a fisheye or wide lens. However, there do not appear to be any out there unless you buy an adapter and those do not play to great reviews based on my readings.

I had the widest Rokinon/Samyang I could get for another camera and was happy with the results.

Anyone with the Z50 and a lens other than the two in the kit?

Thanks.
Ron
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I have the Z50 and the FTZ adapter. I sometimes use it with the Nikkor 300mm PF lens with no issue. The adapter is really just a spacer that places the rear element the proper distance from the sensor. It also maintains electrical connections. Using the FTZ adapter with Nikkor lenses is not the same as trying to adapt lenses with different mounts. If you are used to using 'DX' format cameras you know the lens you mount will appear to be longer than what is noted on the lens barrel.

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May 16, 2020 16:35:34   #
chulster
 
I think Ron is talking about fisheye "adapters" that screw onto the front of a normal lens. I would imagine those indeed aren't very good.

Ron, you should buy an FTZ and something like the Samyang 8mm f/3.5.

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May 16, 2020 17:09:11   #
rappar Loc: Kingston Ontario
 
Not the adapters, the quality just isn’t there. I had the Samyang with my A6000 but Samyang/Rokinon make little Z mounts as far as I can see. Most seem to get that adapter so they can use their F mount glass. I sold all my Nikon glass when I went with Sony.

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May 17, 2020 00:57:40   #
chulster
 
rappar wrote:
Not the adapters, the quality just isn’t there. I had the Samyang with my A6000 but Samyang/Rokinon make little Z mounts as far as I can see. Most seem to get that adapter so they can use their F mount glass. I sold all my Nikon glass when I went with Sony.


Your writing is unclear. So, what are you referring to when you say the quality isn't there?

rappar wrote:
In the past, I have had much fun with a fisheye or wide lens. However, there do not appear to be any out there unless you buy an adapter and those do not play to great reviews based on my readings.


What don't play to great reviews? Do you mean adapters or fisheye lenses?

rappar wrote:
I had the widest Rokinon/Samyang I could get for another camera and was happy with the results.


So why not get that again and use an adapter to mount it on the Z50?

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May 17, 2020 08:21:19   #
rappar Loc: Kingston Ontario
 
"Your writing is unclear. So, what are you referring to when you say the quality isn't there?"

"What don't play to great reviews? Do you mean adapters or fisheye lenses?"

"So why not get that again and use an adapter to mount it on the Z50?"

What I meant was that if I buy one of those 'adapters' that screws on to a lens, I think I am going to be disappointed with the results. They may appear to make objects larger but really, based on what I have seen, do not result in a very good image. My understanding is that they are more like a filter than an actual lens. They seem to be a bit like holding a magnifying glass in front of your lens.

Some of the reviews of the Nikon adapter allowing older lenses to be used with the Z mount were not that positive, that may have been with older Nikon lenses because Amazon/B&H reviews seem to be largely positive. It appears many are very happy with this adapter as it permits them to use all their Nikon lenses with the Z mount.

I realize that many view the fisheye as more of a 'fun' lens and don't have any need for it. I just found it was an interesting lens to have. The Rokinon or Samyang version was not that expensive and none of my images will ever make it to the side of a bus or a magazine article.

The original intent of the post was to see if there had been any updates on Z lenses since I had read the posts already on the site. I can get the adapter but here in Canada, that is over $400 with taxes and then I need to go looking for a lens. Add the cheapest fisheye I can get and I have nearly $1000 invested. I just wondered if there was any other way to go. I guess not. I don't see any Z mount fisheye's.

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May 17, 2020 09:06:58   #
RKL349 Loc: Connecticut
 
rappar wrote:
"Your writing is unclear. So, what are you referring to when you say the quality isn't there?"

"What don't play to great reviews? Do you mean adapters or fisheye lenses?"

"So why not get that again and use an adapter to mount it on the Z50?"

What I meant was that if I buy one of those 'adapters' that screws on to a lens, I think I am going to be disappointed with the results. They may appear to make objects larger but really, based on what I have seen, do not result in a very good image. My understanding is that they are more like a filter than an actual lens. They seem to be a bit like holding a magnifying glass in front of your lens.

Some of the reviews of the Nikon adapter allowing older lenses to be used with the Z mount were not that positive, that may have been with older Nikon lenses because Amazon/B&H reviews seem to be largely positive. It appears many are very happy with this adapter as it permits them to use all their Nikon lenses with the Z mount.

I realize that many view the fisheye as more of a 'fun' lens and don't have any need for it. I just found it was an interesting lens to have. The Rokinon or Samyang version was not that expensive and none of my images will ever make it to the side of a bus or a magazine article.

The original intent of the post was to see if there had been any updates on Z lenses since I had read the posts already on the site. I can get the adapter but here in Canada, that is over $400 with taxes and then I need to go looking for a lens. Add the cheapest fisheye I can get and I have nearly $1000 invested. I just wondered if there was any other way to go. I guess not. I don't see any Z mount fisheye's.
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Both Adorama and mpb have used FTZ adapters for sale at US $139 and 179 respectively, both listed as excellent condition. I have purchased used equipment from both over the years with absolutely no issues.

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May 17, 2020 09:35:41   #
DavidPine Loc: Fredericksburg, TX
 
The Nikon FTZ adaptor works great. The two kit lenses are a great pairing.

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May 17, 2020 09:46:54   #
rappar Loc: Kingston Ontario
 
I looked at the used FTZ's the problem is I get hit with over 30% exchange, a 2.5% charge because it is USD by my credit card people and then 13% sales tax and maybe duty. I save a bit over new here in Canada but not much.

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May 17, 2020 10:14:01   #
RichardSM Loc: Back in Texas
 
rappar wrote:
I looked at the used FTZ's the problem is I get hit with over 30% exchange, a 2.5% charge because it is USD by my credit card people and then 13% sales tax and maybe duty. I save a bit over new here in Canada but not much.


Well maybe you can take a little trip across the border and save lots of money if you get my drift.

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May 17, 2020 10:28:00   #
rappar Loc: Kingston Ontario
 
I have a US address for exactly that but right now, the border is closed.

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May 17, 2020 13:38:49   #
RKL349 Loc: Connecticut
 
rappar wrote:
I looked at the used FTZ's the problem is I get hit with over 30% exchange, a 2.5% charge because it is USD by my credit card people and then 13% sales tax and maybe duty. I save a bit over new here in Canada but not much.


Yikes, I really had no idea the exchange rate had gotten that high. Good luck!

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May 17, 2020 16:09:27   #
SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA
 
rappar wrote:
"Your writing is unclear. So, what are you referring to when you say the quality isn't there?"

"What don't play to great reviews? Do you mean adapters or fisheye lenses?"

"So why not get that again and use an adapter to mount it on the Z50?"

What I meant was that if I buy one of those 'adapters' that screws on to a lens, I think I am going to be disappointed with the results. They may appear to make objects larger but really, based on what I have seen, do not result in a very good image. My understanding is that they are more like a filter than an actual lens. They seem to be a bit like holding a magnifying glass in front of your lens.

Some of the reviews of the Nikon adapter allowing older lenses to be used with the Z mount were not that positive, that may have been with older Nikon lenses because Amazon/B&H reviews seem to be largely positive. It appears many are very happy with this adapter as it permits them to use all their Nikon lenses with the Z mount.

I realize that many view the fisheye as more of a 'fun' lens and don't have any need for it. I just found it was an interesting lens to have. The Rokinon or Samyang version was not that expensive and none of my images will ever make it to the side of a bus or a magazine article.

The original intent of the post was to see if there had been any updates on Z lenses since I had read the posts already on the site. I can get the adapter but here in Canada, that is over $400 with taxes and then I need to go looking for a lens. Add the cheapest fisheye I can get and I have nearly $1000 invested. I just wondered if there was any other way to go. I guess not. I don't see any Z mount fisheye's.
"Your writing is unclear. So, what are you re... (show quote)


I agree that those screw on adapters won’t give you great results. As for the FTZ adapter, I have one and it works just fine. It’s a matter of knowing which lenses will work. The nice thing about a fisheye is that the DOF is enough that focus is easy.

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May 18, 2020 01:21:39   #
teacuppic
 
rappar wrote:
"Your writing is unclear. So, what are you referring to when you say the quality isn't there?"

"What don't play to great reviews? Do you mean adapters or fisheye lenses?"

"So why not get that again and use an adapter to mount it on the Z50?"

What I meant was that if I buy one of those 'adapters' that screws on to a lens, I think I am going to be disappointed with the results. They may appear to make objects larger but really, based on what I have seen, do not result in a very good image. My understanding is that they are more like a filter than an actual lens. They seem to be a bit like holding a magnifying glass in front of your lens.

Some of the reviews of the Nikon adapter allowing older lenses to be used with the Z mount were not that positive, that may have been with older Nikon lenses because Amazon/B&H reviews seem to be largely positive. It appears many are very happy with this adapter as it permits them to use all their Nikon lenses with the Z mount.

I realize that many view the fisheye as more of a 'fun' lens and don't have any need for it. I just found it was an interesting lens to have. The Rokinon or Samyang version was not that expensive and none of my images will ever make it to the side of a bus or a magazine article.

The original intent of the post was to see if there had been any updates on Z lenses since I had read the posts already on the site. I can get the adapter but here in Canada, that is over $400 with taxes and then I need to go looking for a lens. Add the cheapest fisheye I can get and I have nearly $1000 invested. I just wondered if there was any other way to go. I guess not. I don't see any Z mount fisheye's.
"Your writing is unclear. So, what are you re... (show quote)


Are you maybe confusing the FTZ adapter with teleconverters?I have the Z’s FTZ adapter, and all it does is allow the mounting fittings on older Nikon lenses to then be connected to the new mounting system on the Z cameras via the adapter The adapter has no kind of lens in it. It has an opening in it. The Z’s have a new mounting system that without the adapter are incompatible with the mounting system on older Nikon lenses.
The adapter works just fine with many of my older Nikon lenses(my older lenses are less than 10 years old). I don’t think you need to be leery of it, although there are some disadvantages if working with lenses older than 10 years. Why don’t you just order it from Adorama or another good company? It started at $250, but I now see it for $150.00+/-. Even with postage from U.S., you won’t pay $400.00.

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