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May 16, 2020 08:25:56   #
CO
 
R.G. wrote:
The alternative would be something like "Zoom to 100% resolution" or "Display at 100% resolution", which would be a bit more cumbersome.


Those terms would be better descriptions.

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May 16, 2020 09:48:05   #
BigDaddy Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
 
ecobin wrote:
I use Affinity Photo and it provides the pixel dimensions after cropping.

I've used a lot of different editors, including PS, PSE, ACDSee, Affinity Photo, IFranview, and more. My favorite app for resizing, cropping and changing canvas size is none other than the absolutely free app FastStone viewer.
All these apps do it with various levels of ease, but FastStone has the best user interface I think. I crop/resize all my pictures for desktop, TV, Facebook Portal, UHH and occasionally prints. I like it so much I actually sent FastStone a donation for doing such a bang up job on his free viewer/editor.

For example, for a photo to UHH, which I generally want to send at 1200x800, a 3x2 aspect ratio. I load it in FastStone, full screen, crop it to 3x2 (X key). This will show the largest possible selection for the given image. If the image is already at that aspect ratio, it will be the full picture. If not, then move the crop around to select the best possible crop. Then resize (Ctrl R), enter 1200 for the long size and poof, the correct size is given. If the crop is not appropriate for the picture, say parts being cut out I want to stay, then close the crop, open canvas size and add a bunch of pixels to the canvas. I generally do 200 pixels all around, then crop again, leaving black space, or what ever color you want around the pic, and crop again. Yes, you can do this with any editor, and I have, but FS seems to be a step above, amazing for a free app. Also it does a lot of light duty editing, such as straightening, curves, color adjustments and so on. Give it a try it, costs you nothing. BTW, I used FS a good while before I knew it did all this so easily.

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May 16, 2020 14:06:49   #
JFCoupe Loc: Kent, Washington
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
I continued to update my comment, see what is now the final version. When you're viewing a 2760x1440 section of a larger image, that is when you're viewing a 100% crop at a 1:1 pixel resolution. I unsure of the numbers in your table as the percentage identified as a 'crop %' is not consistent with my presentation of a 1:1 view of the image.


Adding to the OP: In Lightroom if I click on the 1:1 in the upper left corner of the screen am I then seeing a 100% crop of a section of the image?

Thanks for you ongoing information.

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May 16, 2020 14:14:47   #
CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City
 
JFCoupe wrote:
Adding to the OP: In Lightroom if I click on the 1:1 in the upper left corner of the screen am I then seeing a 100% crop of a section of the image?

Thanks for you ongoing information.


Yes, although the 100% crop is loose language from a technical standpoint, the 1:1 zoom is synonymous with the concept of a 100% crop. You see the exact pixel resolution of the digital image as matches to the pixel resolution of your monitor.

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May 16, 2020 15:29:26   #
Jerry Coupe Loc: Kent, WA
 
Okay, thanks for the confirmation on this.

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May 16, 2020 16:07:06   #
cahale Loc: San Angelo, TX
 
ecobin wrote:
I know how to achieve it and I use it when culling my photos but I haven't seen a good definition of it or any other % crop. Some internet forums suggested that it's related to screen resolution - I doubt it. I took one of my photos and did various crops and noted the resulting pixel dimensions and % reductions. But I fail to see the relationship.

I'm sure there are many with the answer - thanks.


Literally, cropping 100% is like eating 100% of the apple. You have nothing left. Another time when words don't mean what you think they do.

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May 16, 2020 16:30:53   #
dleebrick Loc: Indian Land, South Carolina
 
This may be part of the answer. Let's say that the 100% crop displays a part of the original image that has as many pixels as your monitor does, in other words, 1164 by 776. Now, what portion of the original image, when cropped by 75%, would just fit in your monitor? The answer if 1552 x 1034, very close to your 75% crop values. What part of the original image, after cropping 50%, would just fit in your monitor? Answer is 2328 x 1552.
Unfortunately, this rationale doesn't work for the crops larger than 100%, so I can't explain that. But maybe this is part of the answer, anyway.

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May 16, 2020 16:57:07   #
CamB Loc: Juneau, Alaska
 
CO wrote:
100% crop is when one image pixel is mapped to one screen pixel (one to one). Photoshop calls it Actual Pixels. The software program needs to know what your screen resolution is to display it accurately. If in Photoshop go to Edit > Preferences > Units and Rulers > Screen Resolution


No, this is just shrinking or enlarging the image on your monitor. It has nothing to do with cropping. If you crop you are cutting something away, not just viewing a larger or smaller part of the image (%) on the monitor. Two different things. The terminology gets confusing so sometimes posters ask the wrong question and everyone gets confused.
...Cam

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May 16, 2020 17:21:56   #
R.G. Loc: Scotland
 
CamB wrote:
No, this is just shrinking or enlarging the image on your monitor. It has nothing to do with cropping.....


I think it's been established that the "100% crop" of the thread's title refers to viewing some or all of the image at 100% - i.e. 1:1.

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May 16, 2020 20:11:40   #
CamB Loc: Juneau, Alaska
 
R.G. wrote:
I think it's been established that the "100% crop" of the thread's title refers to viewing some or all of the image at 100% - i.e. 1:1.


I agree. It's too bad that the word crop comes up on UHH repeatedly when talking about a photo that, in fact, isn't cropped. It leads to the confusion that has pervaded this thread. But you are right about its general acceptance.
...Cam

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May 16, 2020 21:20:26   #
CO
 
CamB wrote:
No, this is just shrinking or enlarging the image on your monitor. It has nothing to do with cropping. If you crop you are cutting something away, not just viewing a larger or smaller part of the image (%) on the monitor. Two different things. The terminology gets confusing so sometimes posters ask the wrong question and everyone gets confused.
...Cam


The topic of this thread is 100% crop. What I described is correct. There is no actual cropping of the image. The software is mapping one image pixel to one monitor pixel. The software program needs to "know" what the screen resolution on the monitor is for this to be displayed correctly.

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May 16, 2020 21:22:20   #
redrocktom Loc: Sedona
 
CHG_CANON wrote:
As you found in your initial research, it is related to screen resolution. Your screen has a fixed pixel resolution. When the pixels in the image are 1 to 1 to the screen, you are looking at a 100% crop. Note how the image gets 'fuzzy' when you go beyond 100% in your digital editor.

Say your high-def screen is sized 1920x1080 pixels for a 16x9 aspect ratio. When you look at an image at or larger than 1920x1080px and you 'zoom' to 100%, you are seeing just a 100% crop of the larger image for exactly a section measured 1920 pixels x 1080 pixels.

Consider your image measuring 8290 x 4560. Using my example monitor at 1920x1080 that measures 21-inches across. You'd need a monitor wider than 80-inches (4x) to see the entire image at the original 38MP resolution at 1:1 pixels to screen.

See examples and somewhat related discussion: Recommended resizing parameters for digital images
As you found in your initial research, it is relat... (show quote)


Great discussion article. Thanks

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May 18, 2020 15:49:16   #
aellman Loc: Boston MA
 
ecobin wrote:
I know how to achieve it and I use it when culling my photos but I haven't seen a good definition of it or any other % crop. Some internet forums suggested that it's related to screen resolution - I doubt it. I took one of my photos and did various crops and noted the resulting pixel dimensions and % reductions. But I fail to see the relationship.

I'm sure there are many with the answer - thanks.


Maybe I'm taking this too literally, but "100% crop" seems like there would be nothing left. >Alan

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May 18, 2020 16:55:11   #
CamB Loc: Juneau, Alaska
 
aellman wrote:
Maybe I'm taking this too literally, but "100% crop" seems like there would be nothing left. >Alan


You're right of course, but this whole thread ended up being about the different ways people use the term crop. Some see a crop as changing the composition by cutting away parts of the picture. Others call it a crop when you enlarge it on your screen so you are only seeing part of the picture. If you enlarge the file to 200% so that you are only seeing part of it, it looks like a crop, but it's really it's just pixel peeping.
If you were to actually crop it to just what you see (by cutting pixels), the final picture would, of course, be less than 100% of the original. Just to make it a little more confusing, you could then enlarge the cropped file to 200% on the screen, but again, it only looks like a crop when it's actually just a part of the existing file. And on and on.
...Cam

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May 18, 2020 17:26:56   #
CO
 
aellman wrote:
Maybe I'm taking this too literally, but "100% crop" seems like there would be nothing left. >Alan


The terminology is not good. Photoshop call the exact same thing "Actual Pixels".



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