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May 16, 2020 11:16:11   #
Bazbo Loc: Lisboa, Portugal
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Very interesting.
I hope this all works well as a preventative therapy it looks like for fighting the virus.
Really amazing research and can be effectively used as a stop gap.

What is wrong with Hydroxychloroquine. France and the rest of Europe are very successfully using this in the treatment of the virus. Why is the USA not using this?

The NIH and the FDA have backed away from it because it has shown to be not effective and can be dangerous for people with cardiovascular issues. https://news.yahoo.com/no-benefit-hydroxychloroquine-virus-treatment-two-studies-085722835.html

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May 16, 2020 11:33:33   #
sumo Loc: Houston suburb
 


Dont take it then. I would take it...

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May 16, 2020 11:34:17   #
sb Loc: Florida's East Coast
 
Architect1776 wrote:
Very interesting.
I hope this all works well as a preventative therapy it looks like for fighting the virus.
Really amazing research and can be effectively used as a stop gap.

What is wrong with Hydroxychloroquine. France and the rest of Europe are very successfully using this in the treatment of the virus. Why is the USA not using this?


There has not been a good controlled study, and there are risk of cardiac arrythmias leading to death with the hydroxychloroquine. The study out of Brazil was not really very good. So what do REAL scientists do - instead of playing politics? They DO A STUDY!

The NIH just announced this week that they will be studying the hydroxychloroquine - azithromycin combination: - this is even announced in the "left wing media":

https://thehill.com/policy/healthcare/497838-nih-begins-studying-hydroxychloroquine-and-azithromycin-as-covid-19

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May 16, 2020 11:36:41   #
5dogsken
 
robertjerl wrote:
Some in the US are. But pretty much only Fox interviews or reports on them.
The others slam it because President Trump was mentioning it. Some in the media, and others - including "scientists" and "medical people" who don't like President Trump seem incapable of giving him credit for anything good.

Some of them are so bad about it that if President Trump said "poverty is bad for people" they would start gathering arguments to show that poverty is a wonderful and good experience. But not for them, for other people.
Some in the US are. But pretty much only Fox inte... (show quote)


https://www.google.com/search?rlz=1C1VFKB_enUS696US696&sxsrf=ALeKk01vqBPVzCx4vS2pyM5MTlxT58e7lA%3A1589643156276&lei=lAfAXpyXEIjKswW-uprgDQ&q=fox%20news%20misinformed&ved=2ahUKEwjBq4Se2rjpAhVESq0KHcuHB38QsKwBKAV6BAgAEAY&biw=1600&bih=757

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May 16, 2020 11:43:40   #
sumo Loc: Houston suburb
 
Real doctors speaking truth. Keep it coming!Take time to listen to her – she’s great………

I WANT YOU TO KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT COVID-19, DR. IVETTE LOZANO

This lady doctor in Texas is fearless and should inspire other physicians to do the right thing in public, which is to tell the truth and demonstrate personal integrity.

She delivered the speech on May 9, at Dealey Plaza in Dallas.

https://youtu.be/VSnSmPGh1Ac

I don't need to listen to or read what you drugstore cowboys without any medical training whatsoever, have to say....probably all dims that are against the cure...hydroxychloroquine

you folks can stay home, wear a facemark if you want and not take a medicine that works..

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May 16, 2020 11:51:29   #
scallihan Loc: Tigard, OR
 
Architect1776 wrote:
This stuff has been around for decades.
Why are democrats so hateful against life saving treatments?
I know, Trump mentioned it.


Trump lost all credibility when he mentioned maybe injecting disinfectants would work. He tried to back pedal and say he was just baiting the press, but he's not that good an actor. I saw that interview, and he was serious.

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May 16, 2020 11:56:02   #
5dogsken
 
scallihan wrote:
Trump lost all credibility when he mentioned maybe injecting disinfectants would work. He tried to back pedal and say he was just baiting the press, but he's not that good an actor. I saw that interview, and he was serious.


https://www.alternet.org/2020/04/heres-why-people-stick-with-trump-and-fox-news-even-when-their-lies-kill/

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May 16, 2020 12:17:33   #
David Martin Loc: Cary, NC
 
sumo wrote:
I don't need to listen to or read what you drugstore cowboys without any medical training whatsoever, have to say....probably all dims that are against the cure...hydroxychloroquine
I suspect there more are medically-trained folks here than you think. The last comments by Bazbo, sb and me are scientifically based. There are certain standards of proof which must be met before a medication is proven to be effective. BTW I am a physician.

In the video you reference: Dr. Lozano's experience is promising.
1. She used hydroxychloroquine before patients were sick enough to require hospitalization, in contrast to the VA study which showed harm rather than benefit.
2. Dr. Lozano's patients were younger - she said between 30 and 55 - so not in the high risk group and not prone to severe illness.
3. Unfortunately, she did not test the patients for Covid-19, and therefore does not know if they actually had Covid-19. Recall that when testing was limited to patients with respiratory symptoms, only 10-20% actually tested positive for Covid-19 because they actually had some other illness.
4. Therefore Dr. Lozano does not know if was hydroxychloroquine or the "shots in the butt" she gave them which made them well.
So her data is interesting, worth noting, worth exploring further, but not scientific, reliable evidence.

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May 16, 2020 12:42:36   #
clint f. Loc: Priest Lake Idaho, Spokane Wa
 
scallihan wrote:
Trump lost all credibility when he mentioned maybe injecting disinfectants would work. He tried to back pedal and say he was just baiting the press, but he's not that good an actor. I saw that interview, and he was serious.


To many on the left he lost his credibility upon being elected. I too watched the press conference where he surmised that there could be cures such as disinfectants or light therapy. If you truly thought he was suggesting that these treatments already exist and you should take them your intellectual capabilities are being cheated by your hyper partisan hatred. Please spread truth, not political gamesmanship.

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May 16, 2020 12:55:57   #
Allie
 
sumo wrote:
Real doctors speaking truth. Keep it coming!Take time to listen to her – she’s great………

I WANT YOU TO KNOW THE TRUTH ABOUT COVID-19, DR. IVETTE LOZANO

This lady doctor in Texas is fearless and should inspire other physicians to do the right thing in public, which is to tell the truth and demonstrate personal integrity.

She delivered the speech on May 9, at Dealey Plaza in Dallas.

https://youtu.be/VSnSmPGh1Ac

I don't need to listen to or read what you drugstore cowboys without any medical training whatsoever, have to say....probably all dims that are against the cure...hydroxychloroquine

you folks can stay home, wear a facemark if you want and not take a medicine that works..
Real doctors speaking truth. Keep it coming!Take t... (show quote)

Do you realize that some of the drugstore cowboys on this site that you refer to (like “sb” above) are in fact physicians. But what the hell do they know, probably all dims that are against the cure, take your medical advice from Trump and the lunatic fringe.

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May 16, 2020 13:31:24   #
berchman Loc: South Central PA
 
clint f. wrote:
To many on the left he lost his credibility upon being elected. I too watched the press conference where he surmised that there could be cures such as disinfectants or light therapy. If you truly thought he was suggesting that these treatments already exist and you should take them your intellectual capabilities are being cheated by your hyper partisan hatred. Please spread truth, not political gamesmanship.


It’s not possible to exaggerate Trump’s ignorance and aversion to science.

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May 16, 2020 14:17:34   #
clint f. Loc: Priest Lake Idaho, Spokane Wa
 
berchman wrote:
It’s not possible to exaggerate Trump’s ignorance and aversion to science.


Your next move is to claim 18,000 lies. Then Russian conspiracy in plain sight and quid pro quo or maybe hair color or his wife and kids. Thank me, I made it easier for you.

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May 16, 2020 14:22:38   #
JFCoupe Loc: Kent, Washington
 
Architect1776 wrote:
This stuff has been around for decades.
Why are democrats so hateful against life saving treatments?
I know, Trump mentioned it.


Just because it has been around for a long period of time does not make it an appropriate treatment for folks with Covid 19 infections.
As noted, testing is being carried out and needs to be done in consistent, scientific ways.

I did see an article today that indicated more deaths are being reported where this drug has been used. I do not have the actual article available at the moment to cite.

We all have a hope that something develops soon.

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May 16, 2020 14:58:48   #
5dogsken
 
clint f. wrote:
Your next move is to claim 18,000 lies. Then Russian conspiracy in plain sight and quid pro quo or maybe hair color or his wife and kids. Thank me, I made it easier for you.


He doesn't need your help. The whole world's got his back:


https://www.google.com/search?q=what+the+world+thinks+of+trump&rlz=1C1VFKB_enUS696US696&oq=what+the+world+thinks+of+trump&aqs=chrome..69i57.19040j0j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8

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May 16, 2020 16:19:14   #
AirWalter Loc: Tipp City, Ohio
 
scallihan wrote:
Trump lost all credibility when he mentioned maybe injecting disinfectants would work. He tried to back pedal and say he was just baiting the press, but he's not that good an actor. I saw that interview, and he was serious.


I guess he was good enough to convince you!

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