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May 8, 2020 06:13:25   #
paulrph1 Loc: Washington, Utah
 
Old Coot wrote:
You don,t want to catch this virus, then don,t go out, stay home where it is safe. - YOUR CHOICE
If I want to go outside - MY CHOICE

You dont want to catch anything from me then stay away from me min 6 ft. Again YOUR CHOICE

If other people want to get close to me, again. -THEIR CHOICE.

We all have - CHOICES. and only you can make them.

Just because your choices do not agree with mine does not give you the right to force your choices on me. If you do not agree then refer to sentence 1 above
You don,t want to catch this virus, then don,t go ... (show quote)


Most laws are passed in order to protect people. But these seem intent on controlling people. There is a vast difference.

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May 8, 2020 06:17:53   #
kernowp
 
And whilst you are exercising your right to die in hospital, please try to avoid infecting the medical staff caring for you.

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May 8, 2020 06:29:34   #
cbabcock
 
TriX wrote:
My only comment is that if you choose to ignore the advice of medical professionals, then to be consistent, you (and your immediate family) should also choose not to go to the ER and expect those same professionals to care for you (and endanger themselves) if you contract the virus and become ill. Are all the people touting their individual rights willing to make that commitment? It won’t help those you may infect, but it’s the least you can do if you’re actually willing to walk what you talk.

You see, it is not just your decision or your choice - what you choose affects others. If you live in a society, then you accept some responsibility for others than just yourself. You may choose to drive drunk, but the person you kill is your responsibility as well.
My only comment is that if you choose to ignore th... (show quote)


Bravo! Yours is a reasoned, calm response. I was tempted to make another kind....

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May 8, 2020 06:35:53   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
btbg wrote:
It is that simple. Our county sheriff decided over the weekend that he had enough of the governor's executive order, which he says is unconstitutional and announced on facebook that he will not enforce the governor's orders and has ordered his deputies to stand down. Some businesses in town reopened on Monday. So far the state police have not come in to stop them.

We don't have to wear masks, and we aren't having a problem other than the governor's orders. State parks are still closed as are recreational parking lots and boat ramps, but at least some businesses are starting to open again.

If enough people choose to defy the orders and reopen their businesses what do you think they are going to do. They can close down one business such as the salon owner in Texas but what can they do when everyone refuses to obey?
It is that simple. Our county sheriff decided over... (show quote)



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May 8, 2020 06:36:15   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
paulrph1 wrote:
Most laws are passed in order to protect people. But these seem intent on controlling people. There is a vast difference.



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May 8, 2020 07:13:25   #
Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States
 
paulrph1 wrote:
Most laws are passed in order to protect people. ...

The remainder are passed to protect people from themselves...

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May 8, 2020 08:17:32   #
Boomer Jim Loc: Newcastle Okla
 
Unlucky2 wrote "I am all for you getting the virus," (Direct Quote) How asinine is that? Typical Liberal.

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May 8, 2020 08:18:47   #
Kjr.7007 Loc: Boston, MA
 
and for disobeying the law he should be arrested, tried and jailed if found guilty.

This is the most idiotic thread I’ve seen on the hog.

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May 8, 2020 08:27:08   #
biry
 
TriX wrote:
My only comment is that if you choose to ignore the advice of medical professionals, then to be consistent, you (and your immediate family) should also choose not to go to the ER and expect those same professionals to care for you (and endanger themselves) if you contract the virus and become ill. Are all the people touting their individual rights willing to make that commitment? It won’t help those you may infect, but it’s the least you can do if you’re actually willing to walk what you talk.

You see, it is not just your decision or your choice - what you choose affects others. If you live in a society, then you accept some responsibility for others than just yourself. You may choose to drive drunk, but the person you kill is your responsibility as well.
My only comment is that if you choose to ignore th... (show quote)


Thank you! A nice, calm response. But, I'll bet if he gets the virus he will go to the hospital.
Bill

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May 8, 2020 08:35:57   #
rdemarco52 Loc: Wantagh, NY
 
Curmudgeon wrote:
No they don't. In today's society consequences are somebody else's fault, never your own.
No they don't. In today's society consequences are... (show quote)


Well said.

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May 8, 2020 09:00:01   #
Jack47 Loc: Ontario
 
Old Coot wrote:
You don,t want to catch this virus, then don,t go out, stay home where it is safe. - YOUR CHOICE
If I want to go outside - MY CHOICE

You dont want to catch anything from me then stay away from me min 6 ft. Again YOUR CHOICE

If other people want to get close to me, again. -THEIR CHOICE.

We all have - CHOICES. and only you can make them.

Just because your choices do not agree with mine does not give you the right to force your choices on me. If you do not agree then refer to sentence 1 above
You don,t want to catch this virus, then don,t go ... (show quote)


Thanks Donald.

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May 8, 2020 09:00:32   #
Jack47 Loc: Ontario
 
Kjr.7007 wrote:
and for disobeying the law he should be arrested, tried and jailed if found guilty.

This is the most idiotic thread I’ve seen on the hog.


👍👍👍👍👍

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May 8, 2020 09:08:38   #
Runninglate Loc: Saint Cloud, Florida
 
rehess wrote:
Not if you move toward me.

And the mask inside is to protect me.

I live in a ruby red state. But even our Governor, deputy to Mike Pence, publicly apologized when he forgot his mask.


Well said but not sure if those that place money over lives would catch on.

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May 8, 2020 09:20:22   #
alexol
 
btbg wrote:
It is that simple. Our county sheriff decided over the weekend that he had enough of the governor's executive order, which he says is unconstitutional and announced on facebook that he will not enforce the governor's orders and has ordered his deputies to stand down.

.../...

We don't have to wear masks, and we aren't having a problem other than the governor's orders.

.../...



Is it just me, or does anyone else find it a little bizarre that a mere sheriff seems to have the right or authority to override a governor?

If so, why bother with a governor?

Seems to mean that we can all cherry pick, and choose whichever laws we do or don't want to obey.

Oh wait, that possibly explains the current mess we have when so many supposedly less sophisticated countries are doing so much better than we are.

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May 8, 2020 09:26:30   #
jhkfly
 
"I want to drive 100 mph on city streets MY CHOICE. You don't want to be hit by me then stay home where it is safe Your Choice. The rights of the individual do not out way [sic] the rights of the group..."

Perhaps, but CHOICE and RIGHTS are two completely different things! Anyone's choice can arbitrarily outweigh someone else's rights. Happens every day; it's called "crime". Prisons are stocked with such choosers. So are hospitals and graveyards.

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