Please define "Shooting in Manual" (Page 10): :sm09: :sm09:...

frankraney Loc: Clovis, Ca.

User ID wrote:

“Manual” means doing it “by hand”.
“Digital” means doing it “by fingers”.
Big difference, no ?

BebuLamar

IDguy wrote:

In the digital world it means setting the dial to M. It means you get to set both exposure time and fstop. That’s it. Nothing deep.

In fact in the digital world the ISO needed to be set manually to be considered manual in my opinion.

selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA

BebuLamar wrote:

In fact in the digital world the ISO needed to be set manually to be considered manual in my opinion.

There is a logical disconnect when people state that they trust their camera's meter to be "accurate" when they then change the EC setting above or below 0.

Using an EC that is not 0 is evidence that the camera's meter, without manual intervention, does not select the correct exposure or ISO.

A lot more people are using manual exposure without realizing it. They are just doing it the hard way.

BebuLamar

selmslie wrote:

There is a logical disconnect when people state that they trust their camera's meter to be "accurate" when they then change the EC setting above or below 0.

Using an EC that is not 0 is evidence that the camera's meter, without manual intervention, does not select the correct exposure or ISO.

A lot more people are using manual exposure without realizing it. They are just doing it the hard way.

In response to you only I do use A mode very often and even with auto ISO in A mode but I also use manual mode often too because whenever I disagree with the meter I use manual. I don't bother to use the EC or AE-L ever. So I never use manual with auto ISO either. I do not use P because it almost always pick the wrong combination. I don't use S also because the range of adjustment is too narrow. I have slow lens, f/3.5-4.5 and unless I need the extra DOF I don't want to go smaller than f/8 and I don't want to use larger than f/4. So the range of adjustment in S mode is so limited.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

User ID wrote:

“Manual” means doing it “by hand”.
“Digital” means doing it “by fingers”.
Big difference, no ?

No palms involved with the second?

BebuLamar

Longshadow wrote:

No palms involved with the second?

Definitely! The palm is for griping the camera. If you have to remove your palm from the grip to make adjustments then they would deem your camera sucks.

CHG_CANON Loc: the Windy City

When you become one with your camera, the magic begins.

Longshadow Loc: Audubon, PA, United States

CHG_CANON wrote:

When you become one with your camera, the magic begins.

I camera.

frankie c Loc: Lake Havasu CIty, AZ

Curmudgeon wrote:

When I think of "Shooting in Manual" I think of picking up my Nikon F, loading a roll of Velvia 100, grabbing my Luna Pro and going out to shoot.

What does "Shooting in Manual" mean in the digital world? Does that mean you turn off all auto functions, grab a light meter and make your expensive digital camera into a Nikon F?

WOW lotsa people really know stuff.
Ummmmm..... Set the little dial on your camera to the M (that'll do it).

sr71 Loc: In Col. Juan Seguin Land

bpulv wrote:

I agree with you, however, the Nikon F Photomic did not have a "head", it had a coupled reflective light meter built into the interchangeable pentaprism. The first model, had a lens built into the pentaprism through which light passed to its sensor, just like a hand held meter. The second model's pentaprism meter used the light that passed through the camera's lens.

UH If I am reading you correctly "The first model, had a lens built into the pentaprism through which light passed to its sensor, just like a hand held meter. NO it did not have a lens to pass light nor sensor, it was just a plain pentaprism. Meter came along with the Nikon F Photomic. It had no meter what so ever.

IDguy Loc: Idaho

BebuLamar wrote:

In fact in the digital world the ISO needed to be set manually to be considered manual in my opinion.

That’s a view too.

Actually most of the time I use M it is with auto ISO. In particular for wildlife. But I do set ISO too when using M for subjects like the night sky.

Some also include manual focus. Which I also sometimes use for things like birds in brush or celestial objects. When I use my telescope as my lens there is no choice.

SuperflyTNT Loc: Manassas VA

selmslie wrote:

There is a logical disconnect when people state that they trust their camera's meter to be "accurate" when they then change the EC setting above or below 0.

Using an EC that is not 0 is evidence that the camera's meter, without manual intervention, does not select the correct exposure or ISO.

A lot more people are using manual exposure without realizing it. They are just doing it the hard way.

It’s not a disconnect at all. It’s just that those that use EC understand that a meter is designed to work on basis of 18% reflectivity and that based on conditions or the scene itself that the exposure needs adjustment. I don’t see how that’s the hard way.

selmslie Loc: Fernandina Beach, FL, USA

SuperflyTNT wrote:

It’s not a disconnect at all. It’s just that those that use EC understand that a meter is designed to work on basis of 18% reflectivity and that based on conditions or the scene itself that the exposure needs adjustment. I don’t see how that’s the hard way.

What makes it hard is that, once you get the exposure right for one framing of the scene, when you change the direction the camera is aiming or someone with light or dark clothing wanders into the frame the resulting exposure or ISO might change and you will want to change the EC setting again. The same thing happens if you are shooting BIF and the target moves between a light and dark background. Or if you are shooting sports and the balance of dark and light uniforms or their background changes.

To get all of these and more to work you will be constantly fiddling with the EC setting.

On full manual this is not going to happen unless you react to every change in the camera's meter reading.

You may eventually learn that, assuming you are shooting raw, there is one setting that works and you don't have to keep playing with it. Small variations will be easy to adjust during post-processing.

d3200prime

frankie c wrote:

WOW lotsa people really know stuff.
Ummmmm..... Set the little dial on your camera to the M (that'll do it).

Yes, that's exactly what I was thinking. To me, shooting manual can't be achieved without dialing the DSLR to the manual setting and adjusting the settings for the best shot. Sometimes I think folks tend to overthink.

JD750 Loc: SoCal

Curmudgeon wrote:

When I think of "Shooting in Manual" I think of picking up my Nikon F, loading a roll of Velvia 100, grabbing my Luna Pro and going out to shoot.

What does "Shooting in Manual" mean in the digital world? Does that mean you turn off all auto functions, grab a light meter and make your expensive digital camera into a Nikon F?

Ok I’m really late to this conversation. I confess to not having read all 10 pages. I am bewildered by how it takes 10 pages to answer the question. My answer is simple. See pic below. That is what “shooting in manual” means in the digital world.

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