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Apr 29, 2020 14:16:38   #
John T.
 
Question: If someone who struggles getting decent shots of birds in flight were to buy a Canon EOS R5 and shoot 8k video at 30 fps and pull a still off of that to enter into a contest, would that be considered cheating?

Asking for a friend.

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Apr 29, 2020 14:45:11   #
tgreenhaw
 
I can't imagine why it would be cheating.

I'm curious to see the single frame quality and will look at the frame quality of 4K from my Rp. Theoretically the 8K resolution should be enough (7,680 by 4,320) but I wonder what kind of compression artifacts and other video related quality hits might occur.

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Apr 29, 2020 14:52:24   #
rook2c4 Loc: Philadelphia, PA USA
 
It's only cheating if you tell someone that you absolutely did not use the video feature to capture the shot.

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Apr 29, 2020 19:44:39   #
via the lens Loc: Northern California, near Yosemite NP
 
There is no "cheating" in photography unless you are breaking the rules of a contest/competition or flat out lying. Having said that, why not just practice getting enough shots of birds in flight that you get good at it? Wouldn't that at least end up with a shot with some photographic skill involved? Practice is what makes you better at getting animals in motion.

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Apr 30, 2020 06:38:09   #
Resqu2 Loc: SW Va
 
I’m just waiting to see a price on the R5. It’s gonna be costly.

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Apr 30, 2020 08:48:40   #
Canisdirus
 
If your 'friend' is that bad at capturing moving subjects...
Just go out and buy a few bird prints for the wall...
Tell your friend to shoot something else...
The camera isn't the problem...or the solution.

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Apr 30, 2020 09:10:18   #
BooIsMyCat Loc: Somewhere
 
John T. wrote:
Question: If someone who struggles getting decent shots of birds in flight were to buy a Canon EOS R5 and shoot 8k video at 30 fps and pull a still off of that to enter into a contest, would that be considered cheating?



Practice, practice, practice.

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Apr 30, 2020 09:14:43   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
Why not just shoot half a dozen in burst mode and pick the best one?

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Apr 30, 2020 09:38:31   #
mborn Loc: Massachusetts
 
BooIsMyCat wrote:
Practice, practice, practice.


My answer also!!

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Apr 30, 2020 09:51:02   #
saxman71 Loc: Wenatchee
 
I'm just speculating here, but isn't it possible it would be just as difficult to get a really good shot of a BIF using the video feature (and pulling a single frame out) as it would be to get a tack sharp shot in burst mode on a high end DSLR?

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Apr 30, 2020 10:06:20   #
morkie1891
 
Sony has a ‘lock on af’ mode where the closest moving object is the point of focus. Using that setting with af continuous will yield a higher percent of in focus captures. Don’t know if other brands have similar modes.

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Apr 30, 2020 10:33:36   #
schaut
 
You're an honest man! Don't lose that!!

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Apr 30, 2020 11:45:42   #
gvarner Loc: Central Oregon Coast
 
morkie1891 wrote:
Sony has a ‘lock on af’ mode where the closest moving object is the point of focus. Using that setting with af continuous will yield a higher percent of in focus captures. Don’t know if other brands have similar modes.


Nikon has something similar in Continuous focus. Combined with back button focusing it works well enough.

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Apr 30, 2020 12:21:46   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
Any high MP high fps “FF” camera might deliver good results. The problem with a 24MP “APS-C” camera is keeping enough pixels on the bird, but this type of camera allows you to crop part of the picture and still have the required quality.

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Apr 30, 2020 12:32:07   #
jeep_daddy Loc: Prescott AZ
 
John T. wrote:
Question: If someone who struggles getting decent shots of birds in flight were to buy a Canon EOS R5 and shoot 8k video at 30 fps and pull a still off of that to enter into a contest, would that be considered cheating?

Asking for a friend.


If you set your shutter speed up to about 1/1250 you might be able to pull that off. I have never tried it on subjects on the move like BIF. I've done it on stills and at 4k video you will net a 12 megapixel image. Probably a jpg image though.....

But if you shoot video at 30/fps and have your shutter at 1/60 as most videographers do, then the wings will be very blurry.

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