It's Not About Your Health
Apr 29, 2020 17:35:02 #
Jade Warrior wrote:
So by extention of this line of reasoning, because 99.98% of Americans didn't die because of the Vietnam War, the lives of those who did were expendable?
Apr 29, 2020 17:46:50 #
hondo812 wrote:
per todays figures 99.98% of Americans are NOT dead from COVID-19.
Apr 29, 2020 17:55:49 #
Rose42 wrote:
I guess my question is:
What is the value of human life when measured against the economy?
What does expendable look like?
Apr 29, 2020 18:07:12 #
Jade Warrior wrote:
So by extention of this line of reasoning, because 99.98% of Americans didn't die because of the Vietnam War, the lives of those who did were expendable?
show me where I said that.
What I will say is that of all the deaths attributed to COVID-19 to date (226,173)worldwide, 26.67%(60,316) are in the USA. The USA has a gross population of 331,002,651.
The EU countries of Spain, Italy, France, UK, and Germany have a total population of 324,160,999. These 5 countries account for 48.04%(108,643) of all COVID-19 deaths worldwide.
Is it Trump's fault that socialized medicine of the EU sucks? Or maybe they are a week or 2 further along in the curve?
In my own state of Massachusetts we have been the unfortunate recipient of the Biogen super spreader COVID-19 event that appears to have spread to here from Germany and /or Switzerland.
Apr 29, 2020 18:25:42 #
Jade Warrior wrote:
So by extention of this line of reasoning, because 99.98% of Americans didn't die because of the Vietnam War, the lives of those who did were expendable?
What is wrong with people?
Maybe if they knew or were related to some of the dead, it would be meaningful.
Maybe not “Death Be Not Proud”.
Apr 29, 2020 18:27:26 #
Kmgw9v wrote:
I think 58,000 dead people with a projection of 74... (show quote)
Km
I know you have a skepticism about the God of the Bible and His Son Jesus Christ.
But that’s the God I serve and that’s my reference point; I hope what I am about to type helps
you in some way.
You fear that God will not do anything to stop it.
Well you are right the god of this world will not; there are two. The god of the world and God the Almighty.
As is referenced in Matthew 4:8-10 this is where Satan offered the kingdoms of the world if Jesus would
worship him. If Satan were not the ruler of the world he could not offer Jesus the kingdoms of the world.
Why do I know this is not the God of the Bible that’s causing this.
1 Corinthians 14:33-35 where it says God is not the author of confusion. There is a great deal of fear and confusion associated with the CV.
Their ultimate goal is complete control and surveillance; cashless society monitoring our every step.
Revelation 13:17-17 He makes everyone rich and poor get a mark on their right hand or forehead.
Without it you won’t be able to buy nothing zip zilch.
Proof this is their end game getting us to voluntarily give up our location, privacy.
Talking about having a card that shows you have been vaccinated before you can have a normal
life. Talking about a cashless society because money is dirty.
Just because I’m a Christian doesn’t mean I won’t be cautious like not washing my hands licking door knobs
and not taking care of my health. The only difference between you and I is I know God has me either way.
I’m not going before my time but if I am called home by God my blessed hope is that I am in paradise with Jesus. In essence I don’t fear death but I think you do.
If you’re in doubt call out in prayer; ask God to help you say you; cry out and ask it it Jesus’ and keep on til you get an answer.
That’s the best I got for ya brother, that’s the best I can say to anyone.
Apr 29, 2020 18:35:18 #
Certain persons find the 'culling' of society through this disease to be acceptable as long as it mainly targets people more dependant than productive.
Apr 29, 2020 19:04:26 #
Jade Warrior wrote:
I guess my question is:
What is the value of human life when measured against the economy?
What does expendable look like?
What is the value of human life when measured against the economy?
What does expendable look like?
Where does idealism stop and realism start? Not trying to be smart but there are an awful lot of people out there who can't afford this lockdown much longer and government simply can't take care of everyone. We tend to forget also that the vast majority recover. Why doesn't the media point that out as well? That's what people need to ask.
I have no easy or pat answer. Its just right now everyone is driven by fear and that is largely media driven. I know this is more serious than the seasonal flu but sooner or later there will be a breaking point in this lockdown. People are getting fed up at the many rules that don't make sense.
Apr 29, 2020 19:05:48 #
Jade Warrior wrote:
Certain persons find the 'culling' of society through this disease to be acceptable as long as it mainly targets people more dependant than productive.
Like Bill Gates and his ilk you mean?
Apr 29, 2020 20:16:08 #
hondo812 wrote:
per todays figures 99.98% of Americans are NOT dead from COVID-19.
I will take those odds, yes, even if it is me on the dirty end of the stick. The virus may go on for awhile but the, Chicken Little, type panic needs to stop.
Dennis
Apr 29, 2020 20:20:14 #
Jade Warrior wrote:
So by extention of this line of reasoning, because 99.98% of Americans didn't die because of the Vietnam War, the lives of those who did were expendable?
Pay attention. That is NOT what he said, is it? Leave it to a Liberal to twist words trying in vain to make a point. Perhaps your reading comprehension is not what it should be. Read it again. I saw nothing about Vietnam nor even a boxing match at Madison Square Garden. you didn’t either.
Dennis
Apr 29, 2020 20:29:08 #
Kmgw9v wrote:
What is wrong with people?
Maybe if they knew or were related to some of the dead, it would be meaningful.
Maybe not “Death Be Not Proud”.
Maybe if they knew or were related to some of the dead, it would be meaningful.
Maybe not “Death Be Not Proud”.
My friend I am related to a number of people, close friends and even closer relatives, parents and children, who are dead from various causes. I still blame nobody nor do I panic that others will suffer the same fate. Like you I do my best to stay away from people in hopes that I do not become infected by the specific Covid 19 virus. But that does not mean I cannot be dead in any number of other ways. My son committed suicide at 24 by shooting himself. I am not now nor ever will be against firearms. HE shot himself.
The vast majority of the world population will NOT die from the virus.
Dennis
Apr 29, 2020 21:55:05 #
dennis2146 wrote:
My friend I am related to a number of people, clos... (show quote)
So sorry about you son.
Apr 29, 2020 22:24:56 #
Shutterbug1697
Loc: Northeast
soba1 wrote:
You’re quote below
Yes exactly govt control over peoples rights.
These draconian measures the surveillance
they are talking about. These are individual governors and municipalities doing this.
Yes exactly govt control over peoples rights.
These draconian measures the surveillance
they are talking about. These are individual governors and municipalities doing this.
What I don't like is when local Governments set sensible requirements for reopening following CDC Guidelines, but Republican Governors override those requirements with superceding unsafe rules.
How it safe for nail salons or tattoo parlors to reopen without face masks required for staff and customers to slow or stop the spread of the Covid-19 Virus? Never mind the suggested 6 foot social distancing suggestion. How can anyone do nails or tattoos from six feet away from their customers?
How is it safe for uncontrolled crowds to swarm beaches?
How is it safe to demand that employees return to work without sufficient PPE, without sufficient testing of all employees, or without social distancing?
How it safe to demand that employees return to work or lose their unemployment benefits when no changes have occurred at their place of business to protect those employees?
Way too many people are walking around spreading the Covid-19 Virus because they're ASYMPTOMATIC and don't even know it!
Why do you think so many hot spots are suddenly cropping up? Lack of testing!
Why do you think that so many meat packing plants had to close down? Lack of testing!
Why did the idiot in the Oval Office just have to issue an Executive Order to force those meat packing plants to reopen? Lack of testing!
The Economy will NOT recover until we've got continuous widespread testing and contact tracing in place!
We're in this for the long haul, and trump doesn't have any, never mind the right, leadership skills to bring the United States out of this crisis!
Apr 29, 2020 22:25:14 #
Kmgw9v wrote:
So sorry about you son.
Thank you. Much appreciated my friend. It was a long time ago but often it is like yesterday. He took his life partly because of the death of his sister a few years earlier. She was 16. Life continues on and each of us goes along with it doing the best we can. So far with a couple of bumps my life is just fantastic.
Stay healthy my friend. I mean that too.
Dennis
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