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Apr 24, 2020 19:47:27   #
SWFeral Loc: SWNM
 
newtoyou wrote:
These are beautiful animals.
When kept in clear water conditions the dark, muddy old skin sheds to fresh, colorful skin.
If I may, some FYI on turtles.
To tell male from female, look at front claws on adults. Males have long, straight claws, used to tickle the females in courtship. An adult male will generally have a somewhat concave plastron. The female a flat one. Her front claws are usually shorter and curved.
A Male's tail tends to be longer and much thinner.
As adults females may be four or five times larger than male.
Enclosed are shots of a probably mating pair early last spring. The shells are stained from iron in the sandstone rocks.
The male is the smaller of the two. Thru 10X binocs showed the differences clearly.
I am in Maryland. They are widely and deeply spread here. I see no signs of them replacing our natives.
In the late 50's till early 70's these were in all the five and dime store pet sections. Along with anoles, Horned Lizards, alligators, and at Easter, in the shell dyed chicks and dyed white rabbits.
The turtles had colored enamel painted carapaces.
Few lived, many that did were released into the wild.
Now a pet shop turtle must be 4 inches or larger. Not likely to be put in a child's mouth, thereby preventing Salmonella. Turtles are a carrier.
Thanks for your post. Male and female size comparison follows.
Bill
These are beautiful animals. br When kept in clear... (show quote)


Thank you for your response. There is a lot of good information here, and your photo of the two turtles is most interesting. I got Amy in 2006 from a couple whose kids had "gotten over" their fire-bellied toad, which I saw advertised in the paper and decided to adopt, even though I'd never heard of one. What I didn't know was that they'd added a hatchling turtle to the habitat, so they threw her in as a bonus. It surprised me at the time that such a tiny baby had been purchased from a pet shop. A bad business.

I do try to keep Amy's pond clean, though the photos may not reflect that. An external filter runs all the time. It gets an extra workout in the spring when Amy stirs up her beloved muck at the bottom of the pond. Thanks for looking.

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Apr 24, 2020 19:47:59   #
SWFeral Loc: SWNM
 
rmm0605 wrote:
Nice set!


Thank you very much.

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Apr 24, 2020 19:48:45   #
SWFeral Loc: SWNM
 
Curmudgeon wrote:
Nice shots of a very pretty lady


I'll tell her you said that. I do think she's pretty, especially her aqua-colored eyes.

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Apr 24, 2020 20:02:43   #
SWFeral Loc: SWNM
 
Hal81 wrote:
I too have them in my ponds. A few years back I found a large 10 inch across guy in my mack yard.


Cool. I don't think we really have water turtles in southwest NM, though red-eared sliders do live in the eastern part of the state. I'll have to look it up.

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Apr 24, 2020 21:04:40   #
Cwilson341 Loc: Central Florida
 
Very touching! After 11 years she must be pretty accustomed to your renovations. She really is sweet.

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Apr 24, 2020 21:18:43   #
SWFeral Loc: SWNM
 
Cwilson341 wrote:
Very touching! After 11 years she must be pretty accustomed to your renovations. She really is sweet.


Aww, thanks. Here's a little something that I bet not many people have experienced: years ago, before she was outside, Amy was in a large plastic container in my bedroom (she'd outgrown anything glass). As I was getting ready to tuck in I saw that she was on top of her floating basking "log," watching me intently. I very slowly lowered my face to her level, eyes shut so as not to intimidate her (or get bitten!) and after a moment it registered that I was feeling her turtly BREATH on my eyelids. They are as curious as any other animal, and as responsive.

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Apr 24, 2020 21:22:36   #
Cwilson341 Loc: Central Florida
 
SWFeral wrote:
Aww, thanks. Here's a little something that I bet not many people have experienced: years ago, before she was outside, Amy was in a large plastic container in my bedroom (she'd outgrown anything glass). As I was getting ready to tuck in I saw that she was on top of her floating basking "log," watching me intently. I very slowly lowered my face to her level, eyes shut so as not to intimidate her (or get bitten!) and after a moment it registered that I was feeling her turtly BREATH on my eyelids. They are as curious as any other animal, and as responsive.
Aww, thanks. Here's a little something that I bet... (show quote)


I think many people miss a lot in life by not studying and relating to animals. They all have personalities worth getting to know!

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Apr 24, 2020 22:12:02   #
SWFeral Loc: SWNM
 
Cwilson341 wrote:
I think many people miss a lot in life by not studying and relating to animals. They all have personalities worth getting to know!


Yep.

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Apr 24, 2020 22:15:36   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
SWFeral wrote:
I would like your son I'm sure since he has some of the same pets as me. I wouldn't go so far as to say Amy is excited to see me, but she trusts me and likes to put her front feet on my hand and investigate it. I'm sure that magically appearing turtle enjoyed his Koi roe! I would occasionally get baby goldfish so that Amy could hunt live food, but she was lazy and two of them grew to be large adults. A raccoon entered my yard and caught one of the fish, leaving behind one scale, and Amy was too terrified to show herself for days.
I would like your son I'm sure since he has some o... (show quote)


You are obviously a great “dad”, and I’m going to forward this to my son so he can get some hints on care. Thank you.

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Apr 24, 2020 22:21:17   #
SWFeral Loc: SWNM
 
TriX wrote:
You are obviously a great “dad”, and I’m going to forward this to my son so he can get some hints on care. Thank you.


Ha. I'd be pleased to help in any way I can.

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Apr 24, 2020 23:59:21   #
luvmypets Loc: Born & raised Texan living in Fayetteville NC
 
TriX wrote:
You are obviously a great “dad”, and I’m going to forward this to my son so he can get some hints on care. Thank you.


Is your son in NC? Do you and he know they are illegal in NC. A lot of people have them because they pick them up off the road and pet stores sell turtle supplies. Somewhere online are 16 pages of NC law on what you can and can't do with turtles. I use to work in a pet store and we sold them up to the point they were declared illegal. Just be careful who you let know about the turtle. I think the Wildlife people have more important things to do than bust people for having a turtle but they can. Just an FYI!!!

Dodie

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Apr 25, 2020 10:58:32   #
TriX Loc: Raleigh, NC
 
luvmypets wrote:
Is your son in NC? Do you and he know they are illegal in NC. A lot of people have them because they pick them up off the road and pet stores sell turtle supplies. Somewhere online are 16 pages of NC law on what you can and can't do with turtles. I use to work in a pet store and we sold them up to the point they were declared illegal. Just be careful who you let know about the turtle. I think the Wildlife people have more important things to do than bust people for having a turtle but they can. Just an FYI!!!

Dodie
Is your son in NC? Do you and he know they are il... (show quote)


Thanks for the note Dodie, but this one crawled into his small fish pond on its own and is free to walk away at any time!

Cheers

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Apr 25, 2020 11:22:59   #
newtoyou Loc: Eastport
 
luvmypets wrote:
Is your son in NC? Do you and he know they are illegal in NC. A lot of people have them because they pick them up off the road and pet stores sell turtle supplies. Somewhere online are 16 pages of NC law on what you can and can't do with turtles. I use to work in a pet store and we sold them up to the point they were declared illegal. Just be careful who you let know about the turtle. I think the Wildlife people have more important things to do than bust people for having a turtle but they can. Just an FYI!!!

Dodie
Is your son in NC? Do you and he know they are il... (show quote)


A bit of clarification about wild animal, and plant laws.
Starting with the Lacey act in 1900, it has been illegal to trade any plant or animal protected in one state to another. This is enforced.
It was a federal act to restrict sales of turtles UNDER FOUR INCHES. This is intended to reduce children putting them in their mouths. Don't laugh. It makes sense when you know that turtles harbor Salmonella.
All states have laws that protect wildlife, and it may be illegal to keep any animals wild taken in your state.
A federal marine animal act protects all marine mammals, reptiles and many fish. NONE of the sea turtles may be even disturbed.
I raised and sold many boas, pythons and monitor lizards in the 80's and 90's. Not today. Too many restrictions.
Due to irresponsible handling and releasing of 'pets' like pythons, the US has problems with non natives destroying habitat.
If you think that the authorities pay little attention, WRONG.
A friend owned a pet store. He had a common garter snake for sale. I mentioned it, he blew it off.
He sold the snake to an undercover Natural Resources Police.
A $135 fine and a warning was the result.
Checking your state regulations before collecting is always a good idea and helps protect what precious little is left of our native flora and fauna.
Bill

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Apr 25, 2020 11:38:36   #
Floyd2 Loc: Littletown WI
 
Great story to go w the pics

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Apr 25, 2020 17:23:22   #
luvmypets Loc: Born & raised Texan living in Fayetteville NC
 
TriX wrote:
Thanks for the note Dodie, but this one crawled into his small fish pond on its own and is free to walk away at any time!

Cheers


That works!!

Dodie

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