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Apr 24, 2020 13:48:06   #
Architect1776 Loc: In my mind
 
PGHphoto wrote:
The virus is quite real - no 'hoax' . It is very communicable - that is also quite real. If people were not ego-centric, and would look at impacts of their action on others, we would not have to have a nanny-state tell people to stay home when they are sick. Additionally - the most unusual part of this virus is that it has a potentially long incubation state where the virus can be transmitted even when no symptoms are apparent.

So to keep at-risk patients safe from the folks who don't care who are harmed, the oppressive governmental restrictions have a purpose. Not saying that every restriction is correct but that the government is functioning as it should to protect those who can be harmed through the carelessness of others. Personally I think it would be better if people just used common sense but there seems to be a shortage of that theses days.

I also wish that people would stop calling names just because they disagree. Not just on the part of politico's but everyone here on this forum (including me) has resorted to calling opposing views stupid or calling the person sharing them worse names rather than presenting factual evidence on why the commentor is not correct. Also what I see here with grouping people together and applying a derogotive name to them really shows the commentor's own shortcomings in being unable to understand and correct another's errant view .
The virus is quite real - no 'hoax' . It is very c... (show quote)


The virus hoax is not that it is real.
The hoax is the lethality which daily now with real studies, being screamed at by the left so you know they are true and accurate, that bring the lethality figures to about .07% max. That is the hoax and always has been the hoax. But libs twist it and say stupid things like they are saying now that you should inject Lysol to cure the virus. Now that is really stupid. Even Lyso has had to come on air and tell the world not to inject Lysol as the democrats and libs are telling people to do.

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Apr 24, 2020 13:48:10   #
PGHphoto Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
 
DocDav wrote:
I don't need a medical degree ( I have one) to know WOO when I hear it. No one, not one single person in position to lead, should even have speculated out loud about putting disinfectant into the human body. We know what we heard, but we also know some one at the base is going to go out and mainline Clorox too. It's not Fake News to claim he proposed it. And, ditto for light. UV-c kills viruses and bacterial. It can also blind you. Some supporters are going to run out, buy a UV source, and blind themselves. Bet?
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it was used as an analogy - NOT suggested or asking if it was viable to use bleach. Key word in the communication - "LIKE..."

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Apr 24, 2020 13:48:34   #
Leefl
 
kl1rick wrote:
This statement is from a self proclaimed genius, whom medical doctors are in awe of his skills and the speed with which he understands. He is talking about disinfectants and then asks if we can do something like that by injection. Not a direct suggestion to go inject yourself with lysol or chlorox, but pretty damn close. I would be hard pressed to defend comments like that from anyone who finished the 6th grade.


Exactly. Unfortunately, there are people who are gullible enough to actually think the President is seriously suggesting it. Even the makers of Lysol were alarmed enough to post a warning not to inject their products.

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Apr 24, 2020 13:50:48   #
clint f. Loc: Priest Lake Idaho, Spokane Wa
 
Leefl wrote:
So now we have the leader of our country suggesting that people could inject themselves with disinfectant and stick UV lights in their bodies to treat COVID 19. Talk about anti science and medicine... The source of this nonsense is at the top. He is the only one pushing the anti-science and anti-medicine agenda. His toadies fall in line and struggle to support his nonsense because if they don't, they will be fired. It's all about politics. He's more intrested in getting himself re-elected than fighting this pandemic. He doesn't care who he hurts as long as it helps him.
So now we have the leader of our country suggestin... (show quote)

You may need another warning sticker on your ladder. You have allowed another person inside your head. The pearl being created in there is hatred to the point you have lost all sense of rational thought. Only hate. I feel for you.

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Apr 24, 2020 13:52:36   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
Architect1776 wrote:
The virus hoax is not that it is real.
The hoax is the lethality which daily now with real studies, being screamed at by the left so you know they are true and accurate, that bring the lethality figures to about .07% max. That is the hoax and always has been the hoax. But libs twist it and say stupid things like they are saying now that you should inject Lysol to cure the virus. Now that is really stupid. Even Lyso has had to come on air and tell the world not to inject Lysol as the democrats and libs are telling people to do.
The virus hoax is not that it is real. br The hoax... (show quote)

The death figures are a count.
They are not a hoax, just as the flu is not a hoax.

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Apr 24, 2020 13:52:42   #
David Martin Loc: Cary, NC
 
Architect1776 wrote:
In fact NY has gone back and declared all deaths of unknown source as well as the virus in order to bolster the hoax.

Provide a link to this information, please.

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Apr 24, 2020 13:54:21   #
David Martin Loc: Cary, NC
 
kl1rick wrote:
This statement is from a self proclaimed genius, whom medical doctors are in awe of his skills and the speed with which he understands. He is talking about disinfectants and then asks if we can do something like that by injection. Not a direct suggestion to go inject yourself with lysol or chlorox, but pretty damn close. I would be hard pressed to defend comments like that from anyone who finished the 6th grade.

So you thought he was telling you to inject yourself with disinfectant?

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Apr 24, 2020 13:54:44   #
aggiedad Loc: Corona, ca
 
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Apr 24, 2020 13:56:39   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
BigDen wrote:
Sending this to the attic because of factual statements would be censorship.

The Attic is not censorship - you can say whatever you want there.

Threads usually show up in the Attic because of repeated language such as “the libs”.

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Apr 24, 2020 13:57:08   #
PGHphoto Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
 
Architect1776 wrote:
The virus hoax is not that it is real.
The hoax is the lethality which daily now with real studies, being screamed at by the left so you know they are true and accurate, that bring the lethality figures to about .07% max. That is the hoax and always has been the hoax. But libs twist it and say stupid things like they are saying now that you should inject Lysol to cure the virus. Now that is really stupid. Even Lyso has had to come on air and tell the world not to inject Lysol as the democrats and libs are telling people to do.
The virus hoax is not that it is real. br The hoax... (show quote)


I understand your point of view and can't really disagree. But the one thing WE can do - on both sides - is when we hear something like the 'president said to inject bleach' is to look at the actual content instead of using what we hear in media. We need to look at the actual footage *in context* before using it to support our own jaded opinion.

Unfortunately, we do have a lot of folks who take what they hear in media as facts because that is the way media presents it. And I am sure that somebody will be killed by injecting themselves with some sort of external disinfectant.

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Apr 24, 2020 13:58:18   #
David Martin Loc: Cary, NC
 
JFCoupe wrote:
So the media showing a video clip of the president without further comment is twisted and a lie? How? The clip shows the President making the statements. It is not a doctored or altered clip.

No, the clip obviously speaks for itself.
Anyone who listens to the clip, will hear Trump questioning and speculating - way beyond his depth of knowledge, and clearing asking stupid questions - but NOT recommending. In print, the media claim that he recommended injecting oneself with disinfectants and somehow exposing one's innards to UV light. They can't bear to report the facts, they have to put their spin and twist to suit their contempt.

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Apr 24, 2020 13:58:29   #
jackm1943 Loc: Omaha, Nebraska
 
DocDav wrote:
I don't need a medical degree ( I have one) to know WOO when I hear it. No one, not one single person in position to lead, should even have speculated out loud about putting disinfectant into the human body. We know what we heard, but we also know some one at the base is going to go out and mainline Clorox too. It's not Fake News to claim he proposed it. And, ditto for light. UV-c kills viruses and bacterial. It can also blind you. Some supporters are going to run out, buy a UV source, and blind themselves. Bet?
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Apr 24, 2020 14:00:40   #
Mr Quark
 
Leefl is just the kind of poster we don't need. He apparently rather post garbage then get the true story first.....

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Apr 24, 2020 14:02:54   #
rehess Loc: South Bend, Indiana, USA
 
PGHphoto wrote:
I understand your point of view and can't really disagree. But the one thing WE can do - on both sides - is when we hear something like the 'president said to inject bleach' is to look at the actual content instead of using what we hear in media. We need to look at the actual footage *in context* before using it to support our own jaded opinion.

Unfortunately, we do have a lot of folks who take what they hear in media as facts because that is the way media presents it. And I am sure that somebody will be killed by injecting themselves with some sort of external disinfectant.
I understand your point of view and can't really d... (show quote)

“The media” does not have to present something in a particular way. Idiots killed themselves taking that malaria medicine because of words out of his mouth that they interpreted themselves.

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Apr 24, 2020 14:02:56   #
PGHphoto Loc: Pittsburgh, PA
 
Mr Quark wrote:
Leefl is just the kind of poster we don't need. He apparently rather post garbage then get the true story first.....


easily blocked by anyone who wishes to not see the posts from them

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